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Sagger
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 Posted - 30/01/2006 : 10:40:26
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PVP Theories and Tips by CPL Brigham Basilone, 1st Lokian Platoon, IHC
Solo PvP
This is a short document describing what I've learned over the last months about pvp with the NGE. I'll begin with talking about 1v1 combat, as I believe it is an important basis of group pvp and a lot of what I'll say caries over to group.
The three most important keys to 1v1 pvp, I believe are:
1) Managing DOTs. Medics, BHs, Officers, and Spies all have wicked AOE DOTs. The drawback on all of these, is that you must be close range drop them on the ground to use them. If you are not one of these professions you must avoid these at all costs when fighting one. If you are one of these professions, it should be your primary goal to get your dot on your oponent first, or get it on your oponent without allowing them to get one on you.
A good way to get an advantage in the dot war, is to make your enemy chase you. This way, you can drop a dot on the ground for them to run through, while you stay safe. Most good players know better than that. The other alternative is to rush in/drop dot/ and fall back. If you play it right you should get your dot down first or get one off without getting hit.
2) Constant Fire. This is the biggest mistake I see people making. You should always always keep a steady stream of fire on your enemy. A lot of people tend to stop firing when they start thinking they want to use a special or a heal, or retreat. Don't do this, always be laying down constant fire. When it's time to use a special, use it and get back to shooting asap-that's something you can practice. When I use my specials now, I rarely miss a beat with my normal fire using them.
3) Use your specials. This is another big mistake I see people make, especially in Jedi duels. It is important to know which specials are on different timers and use them as much as possible. The only thing that you should hold back for, is when a heal is needed (need like 70%ish action to use a heal). I almost always kick off a fight with a damage shot right off the bat, and use it everytime cooldown permits. For an example, here is my magic formula for Jedi duels (this is from memory, but I think I can get the special names right):
Djem-So Strike (just a damage shot), wait for action and Heal, Lightning, Shock, Choke. I've also gotten to where I know about how much action each of these attacks needs, so I can hit them exactly when available and don't lose any time keeping steady hits on (like I mentioned earlier).
Group PvP
A lot of this is just my personal theory, and is arguable. That said, here are what I see as keys to group PVP.
Leadership and coordination. The easieast way for a group to get killed is to get spread out. Many many times I've taken a much larger rebel force in Theed by luring people outside a couple at a time and ambushing. The ultimate name of the game for fights when outnumbered is to have more guns shooting at the enemy than they have at you. This is only possible by getting the enemy group spread out or divided, while yours stays together. To that effect I find it extremely important that the leader keeps everyone together. As a group member, no one should ever go out alone, even if you can only see one enemy. When manuevering outside of combat it's my personal opinion that all group members should try and stick to the leader like glue.
Field Position. This is disputable, but I find it vitally important for large scale pvp. Simply what I mean with this is: if you have two large forces firing at eachother from range, occasionally killing someone, medics are going to pretty much keep their side rezzed indefinitely as long as one side isn't too overwhelming. The way to get an edge is to push the other side backwards. Doing this will force them to leave corpses behind, while your medics are free to sit in the back and keep your group alive. The way that I see to do this, is to be very aggressive (but be smart about it). What I tend to do, is rush the enemy, drop an aoe, then fall back before I take too much damage. With several people doing this, it's going to be a natural response for the enemy to start falling back a little bit.
Coordinated, or semi coordinated attacks. BHs, Medics, and Officers all have nice DOTs, and ones that are also semi-stackable. For this reason, I find it very effective for these professions to breach enemy lines to lay these down at the beginning of fights. Also effective, is to have jedi give them a little cover doing it. A very effective use of Jedi in group pvp is drawing fire. With saber block up, they can effectively lead a charge, taking most of the blaster fire with no danger.
"Head Hunting". When fighting in a group I'm always thinking about getting a deathblow. I constantly scan the enemy looking for anyone taking damage or with low health. If I find some weak prey, I will chase them down until they're dead (as long as it's not too risky to my own life). Getting DBs is very important for widdling down the enemy force. I've realized that with a little time out of the fight, hiding in a corner, or wherever, an enemy can work back up to full health. Because of this I find it vitally important to take someone out of the fight at every oppurtunity.
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Kravka
Junior Member
931 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2006 : 15:02:12
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| nevim jak ostatní, ale já mám v poslední době dojem, že je na Eclipse o dost více overt rebelů než impů. Pokaždé když vyrazím, potkávám furt jen rebely, impy malo. A pokud už jsem v nějaký slušný pvp grupě tak je to jen otazka času kdy se rebelove zformují a udeří v dvojnásobném počtu... Možná by sem mohl Elor nebo nějakej PvPer napsat jak to vidí, já mám fakt pocit že je SF impů žalostně málo... |
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Dreik
New Member
363 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2006 : 16:15:36
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Originally posted by Kravka
nevim jak ostatní, ale já mám v poslední době dojem, že je na Eclipse o dost více overt rebelů než impů. Pokaždé když vyrazím, potkávám furt jen rebely, impy malo. A pokud už jsem v nějaký slušný pvp grupě tak je to jen otazka času kdy se rebelove zformují a udeří v dvojnásobném počtu... Možná by sem mohl Elor nebo nějakej PvPer napsat jak to vidí, já mám fakt pocit že je SF impů žalostně málo...
s tim souhlasim, sem si sel na pvp a prolitl sem celou galaxii a nasel sem jednoho (!) a to sem ho jeste prosil at de sf   |
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Kravka
Junior Member
931 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2006 : 16:34:17
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Originally posted by Dreik
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Originally posted by Kravka
nevim jak ostatní, ale já mám v poslední době dojem, že je na Eclipse o dost více overt rebelů než impů. Pokaždé když vyrazím, potkávám furt jen rebely, impy malo. A pokud už jsem v nějaký slušný pvp grupě tak je to jen otazka času kdy se rebelove zformují a udeří v dvojnásobném počtu... Možná by sem mohl Elor nebo nějakej PvPer napsat jak to vidí, já mám fakt pocit že je SF impů žalostně málo...
s tim souhlasim, sem si sel na pvp a prolitl sem celou galaxii a nasel sem jednoho (!) a to sem ho jeste prosil at de sf
dyt ty ses rebel ne ?  rebelu je vsude kvanta.. |
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Sagger
Ci-ua-ua
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Posted - 12/04/2006 : 08:02:13
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Je tomu tak, rebelove znasobili sve pocty a ted nas prebijeji dvojnasobne. Tam kde oni maji jeste rezervy a mohou povolat posily, my uz ne. Dostavame posledni dobou docela kapky.
Cim to je ? Nevim. Mozna se deti vice zhlizeji v tom teroristovi Skywalkerovi, mozna je propaganda rebelu Mos Eisley uspesnejsi.
Ale zas tolik mi to nevadi, aspon je proti komu bojovat a je to vetsi vyzva. Jako treba vcera 
Akorat me trochu mrzi, ze kdyz je impu vic nez rebelu tak rebelove jdou off (to se u impu spis nestava ale u rebelu to je da se rict pravidlo). Tedy takhle to vidim ja, je mi jasne, ze to rebelove vidi opacne. |
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Jorssk
Moderator
2991 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2006 : 10:44:51
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| Vis cim to je? Pac posrani amici chteji byt vzdycky na strane ktera ve filmu zvitezi. Uz jim s toho vseho hrabe. |
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hlubik
Starting Member
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Posted - 12/04/2006 : 11:11:11
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Originally posted by Jorssk
Vis cim to je? Pac posrani amici chteji byt vzdycky na strane ktera ve filmu zvitezi. Uz jim s toho vseho hrabe.
jj a pritom sa vlastne prirovnavaju k teroristom (ako tu uz bolo spomenute) a zaraduju sa na uroven al-kaidy..trochu schiza pre nich, nie? |
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Kravka
Junior Member
931 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2006 : 11:15:32
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Originally posted by hlubik
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Originally posted by Jorssk
Vis cim to je? Pac posrani amici chteji byt vzdycky na strane ktera ve filmu zvitezi. Uz jim s toho vseho hrabe.
jj a pritom sa vlastne prirovnavaju k teroristom (ako tu uz bolo spomenute) a zaraduju sa na uroven al-kaidy..trochu schiza pre nich, nie?
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nepsal nedavno Enni o PvP v Boh, ze se neco zacne dit ? Jak to dopadlo ? |
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Drizzt DoUrden
Average Member
1591 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2006 : 13:09:14
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tak že hraje Oblivion a prohlásil že do patche 28 ho v SWG nikdo neuvidí (nebo tak jsem to někde četl)  |
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Carmax
Average Member
1314 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2006 : 15:58:45
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Originally posted by hlubik
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Originally posted by Jorssk
Vis cim to je? Pac posrani amici chteji byt vzdycky na strane ktera ve filmu zvitezi. Uz jim s toho vseho hrabe.
jj a pritom sa vlastne prirovnavaju k teroristom (ako tu uz bolo spomenute) a zaraduju sa na uroven al-kaidy..trochu schiza pre nich, nie?
zase bych to tak neslucoval s realitou.. amici vzdycky hrajou za ty "hodny" co osvobozuji svet(y) pred tyrany, jsou v mnohem mensim poctu a stejne nakonec zvitezi |
SWG Carmax - preNGE Jedi & Pandaren - Master Trader (munitions) & Falene - Bounty Hunter
WoW Carmax - Troll hunter lvl 54
EQII Callysta - mage
LOTRO beta Falene
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Kravka
Junior Member
931 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2006 : 16:17:18
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Originally posted by Carmax
zase bych to tak neslucoval s realitou.. amici vzdycky hrajou za ty "hodny" co osvobozuji svet(y) pred tyrany, jsou v mnohem mensim poctu a stejne nakonec zvitezi
ano a idealni situace je kdyz ve finale leti pan prezident ve stihacce v čele flotily, pak vesele naskakuji fragy za zabite ufony a v zaveru zasadi posledni smrtici uder.. pred tim salutuje vernym vojakum, v pozadi se trepe vlajka... holt ameriku nejde nemilovat  |
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Drizzt DoUrden
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Posted - 12/04/2006 : 16:23:35
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Ja vcera malem nakopal za ty kecy druheho tajemnika americke ambasady - vylizany zeleny mozek, byl v Afganistanu, nejakou dobu delal pro CIA, jeste v roce 2003 byl nasazeny v Iraku - a ted dela diplomata pro CR
Sem alergicky na kecy jako v Iranu to vyresime diplomatickou cestou... petkrat to zopakoval a nakonec dodal - a kdyby to neslo diplomaticky, Iran je jen jeden ze 170 statu sveta, tak co... |
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hlubik
Starting Member
58 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2006 : 17:08:55
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Originally posted by Kravka
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Originally posted by Carmax
zase bych to tak neslucoval s realitou.. amici vzdycky hrajou za ty "hodny" co osvobozuji svet(y) pred tyrany, jsou v mnohem mensim poctu a stejne nakonec zvitezi
ano a idealni situace je kdyz ve finale leti pan prezident ve stihacce v čele flotily, pak vesele naskakuji fragy za zabite ufony a v zaveru zasadi posledni smrtici uder.. pred tim salutuje vernym vojakum, v pozadi se trepe vlajka... holt ameriku nejde nemilovat
ak mas na mysli komediu s nazvom Independent Day (len zasmiat sa na tom da, skoda ze to asi mysleli ako normal film) tak posledny uder zasadil ozran s farmy
a este k tomu oslobodzovaniu od tyranie..to o com hovoris? v starwars nie je ziadna tyrania..ved Imperium je usporiadany stat s jasnymi pravidlami..
..btw: vzdy si Den nezavislosti pozriem ked to bezi ale len koli 1 scene - ked Dr. Okuna (hral ho Data zo StarTrek TNG) nacapi emzak o sklo :D |
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Carmax
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Posted - 12/04/2006 : 17:33:04
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Originally posted by hlubik
a este k tomu oslobodzovaniu od tyranie..to o com hovoris? v starwars nie je ziadna tyrania..ved Imperium je usporiadany stat s jasnymi pravidlami..
bylo to mysleno z pohledu americanu, pokud jsi to nahodou nepochopil |
SWG Carmax - preNGE Jedi & Pandaren - Master Trader (munitions) & Falene - Bounty Hunter
WoW Carmax - Troll hunter lvl 54
EQII Callysta - mage
LOTRO beta Falene
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Jorssk
Moderator
2991 Posts |
Posted - 13/04/2006 : 03:59:33
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| Mno Enni ma pry problemy s placenim, ale tedko se to uz vyresilo a do patku by se mel objevit ve hre a zacnou se resit vsechny problemy...uz na tom makame . |
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Akoh Adi
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Posted - 13/04/2006 : 08:21:24
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Originally posted by Jorssk
Mno Enni ma pry problemy s placenim, ale tedko se to uz vyresilo a do patku by se mel objevit ve hre a zacnou se resit vsechny problemy...uz na tom makame .
Uz by se moh vyresit ten senat:) |
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Sagger
Ci-ua-ua
925 Posts |
Posted - 13/04/2006 : 14:20:43
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Z trosku jine strany.....
Nevim, jestli to je mou neschopnosti, ale posledni dobou si zacinam uvedomovat, ze jako Medic nemam na Jedie sebemensi sanci. Ani mi tak nejde o to, abych ho porazil ale spis bych se rad z boje aspon stahl .... nejake rady ? |
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Kravka
Junior Member
931 Posts |
Posted - 13/04/2006 : 14:24:06
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Originally posted by Sagger
Z trosku jine strany.....
Nevim, jestli to je mou neschopnosti, ale posledni dobou si zacinam uvedomovat, ze jako Medic nemam na Jedie sebemensi sanci. Ani mi tak nejde o to, abych ho porazil ale spis bych se rad z boje aspon stahl .... nejake rady ?
me zase nedavno jeden medic docela vykostil tak muzem pak vyzkouset par duelu :) nevim jak to delas ty ale on zacal s nejakou pikou a pak kdyz jsem zacal utikat tak nasadil flintu.. |
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Edited by - Kravka on 13/04/2006 14:26:32 |
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Sagger
Ci-ua-ua
925 Posts |
Posted - 13/04/2006 : 14:30:06
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To muzem samozrejme
Docela me stve, ze pokud chodim v faction armorech tak nemuzu chodit v lootovanych armor castech, ktery maji skvele mody a je to opravdu hodne znat 
edit: to musime vyzkouset |
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Edited by - Sagger on 13/04/2006 14:33:51 |
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Kravka
Junior Member
931 Posts |
Posted - 27/01/2009 : 13:28:53
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| ahoj. Mám dotaz, mohl by někdo napsat jak je to dnes s PVP pokud to ještě někdo hrajete ? Bojuje se ? Nějaký over-powered povolání/zbraně ? a furt je rebelů více než impů ? díky za info. |
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