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VT
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 Posted - 17/01/2007 : 13:54:32
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Vytvoril jsem novy thread, ktery se bude tykat pouze vanguard ffa pvp, jeho soucasneho vyvoje, testovani, problemu, budoucnosti.
Hi everyone-
Now that we've gotten a lot of the information we needed about the team based ruleset, it's time for a change.
Tomorrow, the ruleset will change to:
- Engagement rules: free for all
- Minimum level: 7
- Level spread: 10
- Death penalty: corpse drop
Since I know the question will come up, "corpse drop" does not mean "item loot". The purpose of tweaking the rulesets as we are is testing and gathering data, so please bear in mind that just dropping a corpse is not our final penalty for PVP deaths. We originally brought the server up with no penalty because we wanted data on combat specifically, so now it's time to look at some other things while we address issues that have arisen (this includes balance...i.e. making fights last longer than 10 seconds, mitigating the effects of crowd control, making stealth work, etc).
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Corpse death znamena klasicky pve postih, kdy dropnes nepojistene itemy a vytvori se grave stone (edit: hrob ti nikdo nemuze lootnout). Nemam zatim tuseni zda hrac prijde o experienci.
Level limit +-10 je nastaven z duvodu sberu dat a testovani. V produkci snad uvidime skutecny bezlimitni ffa.
A jeste maly beta pvp apilek :)
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Edited by - VT on 17/01/2007 13:55:25
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VT
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 10:41:12
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Tohle smrdi safe zonama :(
Most of the crafting areas will have pvp restrictions around them.
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Threepio
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 11:57:33
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| safe zony zni fajn :) |
Tak trosku...klokan |
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Rodier
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 14:33:55
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presne. debilita hracu preci jen od dob daocu pokrocila = je nutny to nejak korigovat.
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First of all, who cares? Goodbye! Don't let the door hit you in the ass when you leave!
Secondly, you will still buy this. Stop fishing for attention you lonely little troll.
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†… Havran …†
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 14:58:12
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| asi developri z VG narekrutovali lame GM z DP |
EVE: Lord Greg (Black Nova Corp) [Band of Brothers] [IT Alliance] BoB Forever
KILLER 73.3% LOOTER 66.7% THIEF 33.3% SCAMMER 26.7
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Threepio
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 15:12:14
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Originally posted by †… Havran …†
asi developri z VG narekrutovali lame GM z DP
Stary znamy neohrozeny PK se boji safe zon ? :)
Vis co, ale safe zona te nezabije, a co te nezabije, to te posili :D |
Tak trosku...klokan |
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brutus
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 15:17:05
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| Mne se safe zona na craft libi - ale at jich neni moc aby se do nich nedalo planovite utikat. |
Darkness beyond twilight, Crimson beyond blood that flows, Buried in the stream of time is where your power grows, I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand, before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand, Let the fools who stand before me be destroyed, by the power you and I possess... DRAGON SLAVE! |
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VT
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 15:20:18
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Originally posted by brutus
Mne se safe zona na craft libi - ale at jich neni moc aby se do nich nedalo planovite utikat.
Mam strach, ze jakakoliv safe zona bude exploitovatelna, pac Vanguard nema klasicke zony jako jine mmorpg.
Stejne tak asi hraci vymysli jak vyuzivat prechod/zonovani mezi jednotlivymi "ctverci" ve svuj prospech. Takze se imho treba domlouvane boje budou delat daleko od hranicni cary jednotlivych zone ctvercu.
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Noe
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 16:25:18
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| Pokud budou safe zony všechny startovní lokace + maximálně zony do 10 levelu a třeba vybraná hlavní města (Khal Mekalia a pod...) pak je to v pohodě. Pokud budou safe zony i ve vyšších a high level zonách tak nic moc ... |
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†… Havran …†
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 20:22:05
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quote:
Originally posted by Threepio
quote:
Originally posted by †… Havran …†
asi developri z VG narekrutovali lame GM z DP
Stary znamy neohrozeny PK se boji safe zon ? :)
Vis co, ale safe zona te nezabije, a co te nezabije, to te posili :D
save zony jsou lame a nemaj ve hre co delat |
EVE: Lord Greg (Black Nova Corp) [Band of Brothers] [IT Alliance] BoB Forever
KILLER 73.3% LOOTER 66.7% THIEF 33.3% SCAMMER 26.7
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VT
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 20:30:29
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Hodne spatna zprava:
We would not make a change as dramatic as adding item loot to an already populated server.
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Sigil Games Online
To je pekne v hajzlu, pac to bude znamenat pripadny reroll ... Ach jo ... Protoze na 99 procent nebude v releasu hned od zacatku ffa item loot server ... |
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Demawend
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 21:19:46
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Originally posted by Van Tassel
Hodne spatna zprava:
We would not make a change as dramatic as adding item loot to an already populated server.
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To je pekne v hajzlu, pac to bude znamenat pripadny reroll ... Ach jo ... Protoze na 99 procent nebude v releasu hned od zacatku ffa item loot server ...
to se muze jeste zmenit, treba budou lidi hodne rvat. No ja cekat nedokazu pujdu do toho co bude po release a pak se uvidi.
Podle me lidi co jdou na FFA PvP chtej i item loot a pokud to tam dodatecne nedaj, tak ten server zabijou jelikoz vsichni odejdou, podle me to jeste zmeni, nebo udelaji nejake hlasovani, uvidime. |
Ultima Online, Dark Age of Camelot, EVE Online, Everquest 2, Vanguard, Age of Conan, Hellgate London, Dungeons & Dragons, Warhammer Online, LOTRO, Star Trek Online, SWG, Darkfall, Dofus, Guild Wars, WoW,... a myslim, ze ja debil, tak aspon pulku z toho porad platim :) |
Edited by - Demawend on 18/01/2007 21:22:20 |
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Black
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 22:00:54
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| no uvidime ale rozhodne nehodlam silet tydenim nonstop lvlovanim abych ten server za mesic opustil, to si docela sveho casu vazim |
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VT
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Posted - 20/01/2007 : 01:24:16
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Vidim to tak, ze ffa s item lootem releasnou az pvp poradne vybalancuji - tedy za 3 - 9 mesicu. V te dobe uz nas nebude tolik reroll bolet; taky tipuji, ze umozni character move.
Takze ja v tuto chvili ffa s item lootem poustim z hlavy a soustredim se na placanou na Tharridonu ) |
Edited by - VT on 20/01/2007 01:24:45 |
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Milamber
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Posted - 20/01/2007 : 08:33:56
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Hehe to by me docela zajimalo jak ta hra vlastne dopadne a to asi i tu firmu co to dela  Drzim vsem predplatitelum palce a preju uzasnej item do zacatku  |
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VT
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Posted - 20/01/2007 : 11:34:08
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PvP damage nerf >
There's a damage nerf incoming (sorry, I don't know exactly when, but it'll be with the next patch most likely).
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Ben Tarr
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Sigil Games Online
PvP heal nerf asi nebude >
Nerfing the heals themselves wouldn't be possible because it would break PvE balance. There are other factors we can tweak, however.
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Dorlas
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Posted - 20/01/2007 : 12:05:45
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| to je dobre, alespon budou delsi fighty... |
Dorlas
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Demawend
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Posted - 20/01/2007 : 12:22:04
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Originally posted by Milamber
Hehe to by me docela zajimalo jak ta hra vlastne dopadne a to asi i tu firmu co to dela Drzim vsem predplatitelum palce a preju uzasnej item do zacatku
No pokud ma Sony neco polozit, tak rozhodne to nebude Vanguard. |
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Noe
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Posted - 20/01/2007 : 12:30:47
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Originally posted by Dorlas
to je dobre, alespon budou delsi fighty...
Naprostej souhlas. Heal nerf ani není moc třeba včera jsem chvíli PvPčkoval v Khalu a nějaký sorc o level vyšší mě sundal během 4 sec což je špatně když dostávám takovou damage během pár sec. aniž bych byl shopen sám sebe v tom samém čase vůbec uhealovat a to nemluvím o tom, že bych měl mít taky kousek času na něj zaútočit. No ale pokud schytám 3x po sobě instantně DD za 400+ rychleji než mě najede velký heal a než mě 2x tikne HOT pak je nerf damage v PvP namístě.
Na druhou stranu bavil mě opakovaný fight s Monkem stejného levelu (2x vyhrál on, 2x já) - to bylo vždy mnohem delší fight a vždy velice vyrovnané vždy když někdo umřel ten druhý měl tak 5-15% hpp max. Monk má hrozně rychlý údery a totálně me fízoval každý heal.
V tom bych řekl, že je změna - že obdržená damage ted absolutně fízne kouzlo, narozdíl od toho že předtím damage způsobilo jen zpomalení najetí kouzla. |
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Milamber
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Posted - 21/01/2007 : 08:27:12
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No pokud ma Sony neco polozit, tak rozhodne to nebude Vanguard.
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Nikdo se nebavi o pokladani nejakejch japoncu ci cehokoliv jineho .Kazdopadne hra je nedodelana a dlouho budeA co se tyce financni stranky tak se tim ani nejak verejne netaji ze proste nejsou prachy na dokonceni takze nerusene testuj ..... |
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VT
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Posted - 21/01/2007 : 09:55:55
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Po novem patchi by mela existovat imunita po smrti (asi 20 vterin).
Bohuzel si pohrali s cc a vysledkem je, ze kdyz dostanes napr. stun/mezz tak ti uz nikdy nespadne (ne ve vsech pripadech; pravdepodobne prave tehdy kdyz nastane okamzik, kdy by mel spadnout kvuli damage (viz. novy patch)) .... Ani po tom co releasnes po smrti ... Pomuze jenom relog )
Takze pvp proti classum se stunem/mezzem je do pristiho patche nehratelne )
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VT
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Posted - 22/01/2007 : 12:53:28
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Tak snad dnes>
Re: When are the Rules on FFA and the Team server coming???
I know everyone's waiting for it, and we're not ignoring you. There's just 1 more thing we need to clear up before we'll post the death penalties, but we *are* working on getting it to you.
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