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VT
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Posted - 01/02/2007 :  20:42:04  Show Profile Send VT a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Z vnboardu:

Summarized data from http://vgplayers.station.sony.com

1/31/07 8PM EST


All Classes, All Levels:
Ranger:------------12909
Warrior:------------9656
Sorcerer:----------9314
Necromancer:------9222
Dread Knight:------9195
Cleric:-------------8741
Rogue:------------8096
Shaman:----------7992
Bard:--------------7810
Druid: -------------7068
Psionicist:----------7032
Monk:-------------7022
Blood Mage:--------6971
Paladin:------------6326
Disciple:------------5336

All Classes, Levels 10+:
Cleric:-------------2512
Ranger:------------2433
Shaman:-----------2315
Sorcerer:-----------2047
Warrior:------------2031
Bard:---------------1979
Dread Knight:-------1877
Blood Mage:--------1661
Psionicist:----------1599
Paladin:------------1408
Necromancer:------1403
Disciple:------------1396
Monk:--------------1315
Druid: -------------1129
Rogue:-------------1119

brutus
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Tidus

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Posted - 01/02/2007 :  20:49:00  Show Profile  Send brutus an ICQ Message Send brutus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
prvni onlineovka kde je Rogue nejmin hranej char - to znamena ze to delaji dobre (to neni ironie)

Darkness beyond twilight, Crimson beyond blood that flows, Buried in the stream of time is where your power grows, I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand, before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand, Let the fools who stand before me be destroyed, by the power you and I possess... DRAGON SLAVE!
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RED EYE
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Posted - 01/02/2007 :  22:25:14  Show Profile  Send RED EYE an ICQ Message Send RED EYE a Private Message  Reply with Quote
druid taky nic moc teda

EQ2 (retired)
Lucya - 90 lvl Fury - Splitpaw
Jiskra - 90 Illusionist - Splitpaw <Validus>
Ezkaton - 90 Shadowknight - Splitpaw
VG:SoH (retired) - Auril - 50lvl Cleric
AoC (retired) Lucya - 80lvl Tempest of Set - Dagon
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Marcus
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brilliance

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Posted - 01/02/2007 :  22:55:26  Show Profile  Send Marcus an ICQ Message Send Marcus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Disicplov je preco tak malo? :)

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Rashaverak
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Posted - 01/02/2007 :  23:17:55  Show Profile  Send Rashaverak an ICQ Message Send Rashaverak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by brutus

prvni onlineovka kde je Rogue nejmin hranej char - to znamena ze to delaji dobre (to neni ironie)



nikoliv to znamena ze je gimp alespon na pvp serveru, dukazem je to ze nizkych levelu je pomerne hodne ale na "vyssi" uz se dostane malokdo, nicmene souhlasim ze je udelanej hezky a na pve je to ok

lastfm

Edited by - Rashaverak on 01/02/2007 23:19:13
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Pedro
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Posted - 02/02/2007 :  08:27:50  Show Profile  Send Pedro an ICQ Message Send Pedro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Marcus

Disicplov je preco tak malo? :)


Asi proto, ze si pod tim neumi lidi predstavit, co ten char umi. A je to jenom dobre, ze ho hraje tak malo lidi. Nerad hraju chary, kterych beha po serveru mraky.
BTW Discilpe je je pro me (tak jak je postaveny) idealni kombinace clasu co jsem si vzdy pral v MMORPG hrat .

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Drew
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Posted - 02/02/2007 :  09:43:33  Show Profile  Send Drew an ICQ Message Send Drew a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pedro


Nerad hraju chary, kterych beha po serveru mraky.



Mno to samé bylo s dirgama na EQ2,víc jak rok nikdo tento char vůbec neznal.Až se přišlo na to jak potřebnej to je char nastal boom jak sfina.Takže počítám že až lidi přijdou na chuť hybridnímu charu,tak i disciplů bude dost.Nehledě na to,že všechny chary se stejně ještě budou beztak měnit

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tojejedno
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Posted - 02/02/2007 :  09:56:50  Show Profile  Send tojejedno an ICQ Message Send tojejedno a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pedro
idealni kombinace clasu co jsem si vzdy pral v MMORPG hrat .


Nejlepsiho DD, tanka a doce v jedny osobe chce hrat skoro kazdy:-)

AO: Pan Shade Tojejedno + PvP nub - retarded (tm)by NerfTý Mittra
VG: Jsem takova mala pisnicka - retarded s potencialem
EQ2: Tojeonde - Pivipi - retarded
Rift: Tojejedno - nejakej FOTM class, takze klerik asi:/ - retarded
FF XIV: Toje Tojejedno - a opet retarded, hrozna hra
TESO - tojejedno - sorcka - Sem se vratil z dovolene a prej uz se to nehraje

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Pedro
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Posted - 02/02/2007 :  10:06:08  Show Profile  Send Pedro an ICQ Message Send Pedro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tojejedno

quote:
Originally posted by Pedro
idealni kombinace clasu co jsem si vzdy pral v MMORPG hrat .


Nejlepsiho DD, tanka a doce v jedny osobe chce hrat skoro kazdy:-)


Pssst!

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Rodier
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StavkaDJu

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Posted - 02/02/2007 :  11:19:51  Show Profile  Visit Rodier's Homepage  Send Rodier an ICQ Message Send Rodier a Private Message  Reply with Quote
kamos ma druida a jako DD kouzla ma docela fajn, to leceni taky. ale co stoji uplne za picu je ten jeho pet :(
Kdyz jsem jako psionista zkousel vyvolavat simulacron - kopii moba, tak ten mob z 90% drzel hate a jen par krat se zrusil tim, ze ho mob jakoby prokouk..ze jde o iluzi.. no ale u druida je to uplne naopak. Kamos potvoru rootne, vyvola peta ten zacne do moba busit ale je to prd platny.. root v 80% nefunguje a mob jde po nas :(

s dmg "nas" to nemuze mit nic spolecneho, nebot simulacron u psionisty nedava zadne damage..takze o strhnuti hate aury nemuze byt rec. Proste ten druidi pet je na hovno (nema velkou hate auru) a druidi root taky (fungoval jen prvnich par levelu aspon na 60%)..


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Secondly, you will still buy this. Stop fishing for attention you lonely little troll.
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Havran
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Posted - 02/02/2007 :  11:53:37  Show Profile  Send Havran an ICQ Message Send Havran a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rodier

kamos ma druida a jako DD kouzla ma docela fajn, to leceni taky. ale co stoji uplne za picu je ten jeho pet :(
Kdyz jsem jako psionista zkousel vyvolavat simulacron - kopii moba, tak ten mob z 90% drzel hate a jen par krat se zrusil tim, ze ho mob jakoby prokouk..ze jde o iluzi.. no ale u druida je to uplne naopak. Kamos potvoru rootne, vyvola peta ten zacne do moba busit ale je to prd platny.. root v 80% nefunguje a mob jde po nas :(

s dmg "nas" to nemuze mit nic spolecneho, nebot simulacron u psionisty nedava zadne damage..takze o strhnuti hate aury nemuze byt rec. Proste ten druidi pet je na hovno (nema velkou hate auru) a druidi root taky (fungoval jen prvnich par levelu aspon na 60%)..



Drudi pet (aspon na nizsich levlech) neni normalni pet ale graficky ztvarneny specialni DOT, takze ani aggro drzet nemuze.
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Marwyn
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Posted - 02/02/2007 :  12:06:32  Show Profile Send Marwyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
lol Rodier neco nepochopil :) proste vlci z EQ2 vardena
teda ne ze bych vubec vedel co ten pseudo pet dela :)

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<Played: 9D, AoC, AO, AC, AC2, DF, D&D, EVE, EQ2, GW, HG-London, Horizons, L2, MoM, Neocron, Ryzom, SWG, TR, UO, Vanguard, WHO, WoW, ...>

Edited by - Marwyn on 02/02/2007 12:07:25
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Atronach
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casea

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Posted - 02/02/2007 :  12:36:41  Show Profile Send Atronach a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nemluve o tom, ze u simulacrumu u psiona se primo pise ze dela POUZE hate zadny dmg... ale nekteri lidi proste nectou


WOW: Kasicka, Druid, [Ceska Legie]. Moonglade
TESO: Kasicka, Templar, [Ceska Legie, MdK], EU
Rift: Kasicka, Cleric, [Ceska legie], Gelidra
EQ2: Kasicka, Inquizitor, [Ceska legie], Splitpaw
AoC: Casea, Necro, [Legie], Dagon
Lotro: Casea, Minstrel, [Myth], Snow
Vanguard [R.I.P.]: Attronach, High Elf Psionist, [MdK]


Edited by - Atronach on 02/02/2007 12:37:15
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Rashaverak
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Posted - 02/02/2007 :  13:06:53  Show Profile  Send Rashaverak an ICQ Message Send Rashaverak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Atronach

Nemluve o tom, ze u simulacrumu u psiona se primo pise ze dela POUZE hate zadny dmg... ale nekteri lidi proste nectou



nekteri lide jako rodier mam podezreni ani cist neumeji, jenom psat, coz by vysvetlovalo mnohe

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fedaikin
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Posted - 02/02/2007 :  13:37:52  Show Profile Send fedaikin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
mno, v eq2 nekromancerky swarm peti agro drzeli

akorát ne moc dlouho :)
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Marwyn
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Posted - 02/02/2007 :  14:23:12  Show Profile Send Marwyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fedaikin

mno, v eq2 nekromancerky swarm peti agro drzeli

akorát ne moc dlouho :)


myslis do prvniho uderu ? :D

Marwyn Zevl
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<Played: 9D, AoC, AO, AC, AC2, DF, D&D, EVE, EQ2, GW, HG-London, Horizons, L2, MoM, Neocron, Ryzom, SWG, TR, UO, Vanguard, WHO, WoW, ...>
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fedaikin
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Posted - 02/02/2007 :  15:15:44  Show Profile Send fedaikin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Marwyn

quote:
Originally posted by fedaikin

mno, v eq2 nekromancerky swarm peti agro drzeli

akorát ne moc dlouho :)


myslis do prvniho uderu ? :D



mno, jak od koho
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Eskel
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Posted - 03/02/2007 :  13:12:54  Show Profile  Send Eskel an ICQ Message Send Eskel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by brutus

prvni onlineovka kde je Rogue nejmin hranej char - to znamena ze to delaji dobre (to neni ironie)



V EQ2 taky rogua moc lidi nehralo, hlavne ze zacatku.

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brutus
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Tidus

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Posted - 04/02/2007 :  10:54:28  Show Profile  Send brutus an ICQ Message Send brutus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To ze se budou pomery class menit je jasny. Zazitky jako tenhle donutej nejednoho k zalozeni alta:

You may not want nerfs but your class in particular needs one(cleric). Today in pvp our group another group of 22-24 at Hilsbury Manor had two fights. First battle we lost our sorcerer, they lost 5 and the 5 of us together couldn't take down their cleric. The 5 of them who died had enough time to run all the way back to where their cleric had fled with us attacking him the entire time and rejoin the battle. We were forced to flee as by that time all our casters were oom. I play a 24 blood mage and after last patch if I'm nuking a character who is full buffed with all the resist buffs, I nuke with a 3sec cast nuke for 41 dmg against same level. 41 dmg as an offensive spell caster with less hp's than any other class, and cloth armor is really rather rediculous, I'm not sure if I can see what they were trying to accomplish with the spell dmg nerfs but they are having some serious trouble with class balance if you ask me. Spell resist buffs need some look at or just how resists affect players in general.
Ever tried killing a disciple??? Today myself, lvl 24 bmg and my friend 21 bard decided to kill a lvl 20 disciple (enemy guild)..... Anyways after about five minutes the disciple never dropped below 1/4 health and I was almost completely oom. Somehow I got lucky with two crits in a row at the same time the bard pulled off his stun and we came away with a lucky win. Pretty sad if you ask me that someone 4 levels higher and a bard one level higher can only beat a level 20 disciple with a lucky crit. Two of any class, and I mean ANY class around 2-3 lvl's lower than a bmg is going to mangle me 9 times out of ten. VG pvp probably has the worst balance of any mmo i've played yet, given every patch is like playing a new game they sure manage to *#@$ a lot of things up..... I want to know how they do their testing.....



Darkness beyond twilight, Crimson beyond blood that flows, Buried in the stream of time is where your power grows, I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand, before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand, Let the fools who stand before me be destroyed, by the power you and I possess... DRAGON SLAVE!
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VT
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Posted - 04/02/2007 :  11:24:23  Show Profile Send VT a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No popisuje pvp z pohledu nejvic ponerfovaneho classu - Blood Maga. Ten dostal nerf vic nez 100 procent. Damage, ktery byl v bete treba 400 je ted 200.

Ja na svym 25 levelu delam do Dread Knighta (ktery je o tri levely nizsi) kolem 100 (ddeckem, ktere nelifedrainuje). To znamena, ze ho musim trefit 30x a neumrit pri tom.

BM uz neni holt na solo, ale do group pvp je to excelentni class (napr. sharovani damage a no range damage healovani pres EW).

Cleric, disciple, shaman jsou zatim skutecne neporazitelne classy.

Edited by - VT on 04/02/2007 11:24:51
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