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brutus
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 Posted - 16/01/2007 : 22:24:12
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No jsem zvedav jak to bude vypadat se skladbou charu po release...
Jak to vypada ted tak bych rekl ze je to samej light fighter, hromady healeru, podprumerne magu a temer zadny tanci. |
Darkness beyond twilight, Crimson beyond blood that flows, Buried in the stream of time is where your power grows, I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand, before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand, Let the fools who stand before me be destroyed, by the power you and I possess... DRAGON SLAVE! |
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VT
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Posted - 17/01/2007 : 06:59:28
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Vcera jsem si /who all count vsechny classy na pvp serveru (kolem 19:00):
Disciple 22
Cleric 58
BMG 71
Shaman 74
Necromancer 60
Sorcerer 78
Prionicist 46
Druid 38
Warrior 75
DK 75
Paladin 44
Rogue 76
Bard 58
Monk 55
Ranger 111
Prijde mi to celkem vyrovnane, tanku je taky imho dost. |
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Rodier
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Posted - 17/01/2007 : 14:15:11
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| tak sem vcera rozjel barda a docela mne prekvapilo to skladani songu :-) |
First of all, who cares? Goodbye! Don't let the door hit you in the ass when you leave!
Secondly, you will still buy this. Stop fishing for attention you lonely little troll.
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VT
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Posted - 17/01/2007 : 14:25:48
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Originally posted by Rodier
tak sem vcera rozjel barda a docela mne prekvapilo to skladani songu :-)
Tak to jsi asi nehral Ryzom, kde jsi si mohl slozit uplne vsechny spelly. |
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WanargiMort
Junior Member
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Posted - 17/01/2007 : 14:31:32
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Originally posted by Van Tassel
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Originally posted by Rodier
tak sem vcera rozjel barda a docela mne prekvapilo to skladani songu :-)
Tak to jsi asi nehral Ryzom, kde jsi si mohl slozit uplne vsechny spelly.
Nastesti Ryzom nezavreli  Takze ten minuly cas je nepatricny 
Jinac bych se rad zeptal jestli kombinace rasa/povolani - kojani/dread knight je podle vas hratelna. Nebo jestli pro DK je jina rasa vhodnejsi. |
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tojejedno
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Posted - 17/01/2007 : 14:48:13
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Originally posted by WanargiMort
Jinac bych se rad zeptal jestli kombinace rasa/povolani - kojani/dread knight je podle vas hratelna. Nebo jestli pro DK je jina rasa vhodnejsi.
http://www.imperium.cz/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21400
"Nejlepsi/Spravna" cesta je vzit rasu, ktera ma bonusy k tem samy co povolani. Viz dole zajimava debata a clericich (nebo o cem, neni tam flame tak to moc nectu). |
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brutus
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1833 Posts |
Posted - 18/01/2007 : 09:20:41
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Na BM porad pracujou:
- Blood Mage – Steal Mortality no longer has a chance to kill your opponent – or do any damage for that matter
- Blood Mage – Steal Mortality has been renamed to Grim Harvest
- Blood Mage – Grim Harvest is now given at level 14
- Blood Mage – Added new ability line Cleansing Symbiote at level 14
- Blood Mage – Added new ability line Controlling Symbiote at level 14
- Blood Mage – Added new ability line Plated Symbiote at level 18
- Blood Mage – Added new ability line Hollow Symbiote at level 22
- Blood Mage – Added new ability line Frenzied Symbiote at level 26
- Blood Mage – Added new ability line Renewing Symbiote at level 30
- Blood Mage – Added new ability line Quickening Symbiote at level 34
- Blood Mage – Added new ability line Vitalizing Symbiote at level 38
- Blood Mage – Added new ability line Conducive Symbiote at level 42
- Blood Mage - Removed old Symbiote ability lines
- Blood Mage – Transfusion of Serak no longer heals your opponent when cast.
Jak to vypada v realu? Zlepsil se zase? :)
U barda se asi snazej resit raid buffbota:
- Bard – Mellarian’s Anthem of War is now a Voice song.
Cili na commbat buff song nepusobi zadne nastroje a neni duvod aby bard jen buffoval. ("problem" je ze ted je z nej jeste vetsi cirkularka)
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/rant
Mimochodem pokud s timhle neco neudelaj tak nevim kdo bude hrat castery:
Muj Druid zabiji moba - trva mu to docela dlouho, ale snare/root a pohoda. Mam add - opet prez snare a root to jde zvladnout. Kdyz jsou ale 3 tak bud utecu nebo umru.
Muj bard na stejnem miste - 3moby? 4moby? np - proste to zabiju. (rychlejc nez caster zabije 1) Naopak jsem rad ze mam hodne xp. (Totez plati i pro rangera, akorat dela jeste vic dmg - monka/rogue jsem neskousel). |
Darkness beyond twilight, Crimson beyond blood that flows, Buried in the stream of time is where your power grows, I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand, before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand, Let the fools who stand before me be destroyed, by the power you and I possess... DRAGON SLAVE! |
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Little
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 09:35:56
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Bohuzel nemuzu srovnavat s dmg outputem BMG pred nerfem a po boostu. Vcera sem udelal teprve lvl 10. Ale musim rict, ze co sem dostal novou stance s +25% dmg buffem a prvni dva finishing move tak je ten blood mage fakt masakr.
Na solo o 1-2 lvl vyssi 3-teckovy zluty mob jak nic pokud se mi nehealuje, 3-teckoveho cerveneho vetsinou nedam pac mi dojde energy i HP.
Ale musim rict, ze zatim ve srovnani s bardem na stejnem lvlu, je blood mage asi 2x lepsi dmg dealer, ale to se imo zmeni s narustajicim lvlem.
BTW to, ze za nektere questy jsou rewardy heavy a medium armor s bonusama (+HP, whatever) a light armor je cisty bez bonusu je doufam bug :) |
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VT
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 09:48:46
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quote:
Originally posted by brutus
Na BM porad pracujou:
- Blood Mage – Steal Mortality no longer has a chance to kill your opponent – or do any damage for that matter
- Blood Mage – Steal Mortality has been renamed to Grim Harvest
- Blood Mage – Grim Harvest is now given at level 14
- Blood Mage – Added new ability line Cleansing Symbiote at level 14
- Blood Mage – Added new ability line Controlling Symbiote at level 14
- Blood Mage – Added new ability line Plated Symbiote at level 18
- Blood Mage – Added new ability line Hollow Symbiote at level 22
- Blood Mage – Added new ability line Frenzied Symbiote at level 26
- Blood Mage – Added new ability line Renewing Symbiote at level 30
- Blood Mage – Added new ability line Quickening Symbiote at level 34
- Blood Mage – Added new ability line Vitalizing Symbiote at level 38
- Blood Mage – Added new ability line Conducive Symbiote at level 42
- Blood Mage - Removed old Symbiote ability lines
- Blood Mage – Transfusion of Serak no longer heals your opponent when cast.
Jak to vypada v realu? Zlepsil se zase? :)
V prvnim revampu dostal 30 procentni nerf damage, v druhem mu nerfli healy, sebrali buffy (presunuli na vyssi levely), a znovu dostal nerf damage, tentokrat 50 procentni. Sebrali mu na nizsich levelech group heal. Mikromanagement znesnadnili (hp2mana z 8 sec na 10sec).
Posledni dva patche dostava celkem zajimave utilitky a dockali jsme se i slighty increase damage, asi o 10 procent.
Vysledkem je fajnovy support class, ktery muze solovat dvojdotaky, a o 3 - 4 levely nizsi 3 dotaky (trva mu to asi 1,5 - 3 minuty nez 3 dotaka zabije).
V pvp imho nikoho nezabije, ale zase neumre. Obratili totiz zcela naruby funkcnost lifedrainu. D2 misto 250 damage, dela jen 100 damage (pricemz pure castri uz delaji damage 400 - 600, crit 1000), ale vraci treba 450 hp. Dostal taky instantni brejkovadlo spellu u offenzivniho targetu (skvele do pvp).
Life Husk byl zmenen z healovaci bubliny na 6 vterinovou imunitu, ktera ovsem nezabrani negativnim effektum, ktere mas uz na sobe, aby nedelali dal neplechu. V tom je lepsi Clerikova nesmrtelnost.
Dnes dostal novou radu spellu napr. overtime cure poison a disease, pouziti potrebuje ingredienci. Zatim jsem nezkousel.
Diky nejmensimu damage outputu ze vsech healeru (imho!) a vzhledem k tomu, ze jako jediny z nich ma light armor si nedokazu predstavit, ze bych hral BMG bez grupy. Budu na grupe zcela zavisly, ovsem vynahradim si to desitkama utilit, ktere muzu odmackavat :) (btw ten 2sec global cooldown, je ale pekna nuda ...). |
Edited by - VT on 18/01/2007 09:57:36 |
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VT
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 09:52:57
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Originally posted by Little
Bohuzel nemuzu srovnavat s dmg outputem BMG pred nerfem a po boostu. Vcera sem udelal teprve lvl 10. Ale musim rict, ze co sem dostal novou stance s +25% dmg buffem a prvni dva finishing move tak je ten blood mage fakt masakr.
Na solo o 1-2 lvl vyssi 3-teckovy zluty mob jak nic pokud se mi nehealuje, 3-teckoveho cerveneho vetsinou nedam pac mi dojde energy i HP.
Ale musim rict, ze zatim ve srovnani s bardem na stejnem lvlu, je blood mage asi 2x lepsi dmg dealer, ale to se imo zmeni s narustajicim lvlem.
BTW to, ze za nektere questy jsou rewardy heavy a medium armor s bonusama (+HP, whatever) a light armor je cisty bez bonusu je doufam bug :)
Zatim mi prijde, ze Vanguard se hraje na 1-10 zcela jinak nez na vyssich levelech. Tam se postupne projevuje sila jednotlivych classu - kdo je offenzivni tank/caster zacina delat vyrazne vetsi damage nez ostatni classy apod (coz je v poradku :)). |
Edited by - VT on 18/01/2007 09:53:28 |
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Little
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 10:08:08
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Originally posted by Van Tassel
Diky nejmensimu damage outputu ze vsech healeru a vzhledem k tomu, ze jako jediny z nich ma light armor si nedokazu predstavit, ze bych hral BMG bez grupy. Budu na grupe zcela zavisly, ovsem vynahradim si to desitkama utilit, ktere muzu odmackavat :) (btw ten 2sec global cooldown, je ale pekna nuda ...).
No me prijde Vanguard vubec vice orientovany groupu (nebo minimalne na 2 hrace) coz je imo dobre, proste mi trosku nesedi treba jak je nastavena obtiznost ve WOWku, to ze se da 90% questu odsolovat mi prijde spis jak singleovka.
BTW nevim na jakem lvlu si hral shamana ale me prislo, ze tahle classa neni vubec orientovana na dmg sice sem ho hral jen chvilku ale stejne, vcera kdyz sem videl lvl 15 shamana jak se trapil s 3 teckovym mobem lvl 11... |
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tojejedno
Advanced Member
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 10:09:56
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Originally posted by Little
No me prijde Vanguard vubec vice orientovany groupu (nebo minimalne na 2 hrace) coz je imo dobre, proste mi trosku nesedi treba jak je nastavena obtiznost ve WOWku, to ze se da 90% questu odsolovat mi prijde spis jak singleovka.
No posledni patche zjednodusujou questy aby byly solovatelny. Doufam, ze jen ty zacatecnicky, nez si clovek najde grupu.
WTB informace jak to vypada tak na 30+ levelu a 50+. Esli je drtiva vetsina group only, raidovani atd. |
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Little
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 10:11:26
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quote:
Originally posted by Van Tassel
Zatim mi prijde, ze Vanguard se hraje na 1-10 zcela jinak nez na vyssich levelech. Tam se postupne projevuje sila jednotlivych classu - kdo je offenzivni tank/caster zacina delat vyrazne vetsi damage nez ostatni classy apod (coz je v poradku :)).
Jo s tim souhlasim, tak je to i spravne :)
BTW mel bych dotaz: pokud umru, ztratim XP to vim, ale nepozorovali sme zadny rozdil mezi tim dojit si pro veci a summonout si je k oltari (krom ztraty par medaku). Je tam neco co bysme meli vedet? Ono nabihat pak mezi o 3 lvly vyssi moby 3teckovy bez equipu, zbrani neni zrovna slast ;) |
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tojejedno
Advanced Member
5625 Posts |
Posted - 18/01/2007 : 10:16:37
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Originally posted by Little
BTW mel bych dotaz: pokud umru, ztratim XP to vim, ale nepozorovali sme zadny rozdil mezi tim dojit si pro veci a summonout si je k oltari (krom ztraty par medaku). Je tam neco co bysme meli vedet? Ono nabihat pak mezi o 3 lvly vyssi moby 3teckovy bez equipu, zbrani neni zrovna slast ;)
DObehnutim ziskaz spet i cca 80% ztracene expy. Summonem nic nebo 20%. |
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FF XIV: Toje Tojejedno - a opet retarded, hrozna hra
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brutus
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 10:21:50
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Originally posted by Little
BTW nevim na jakem lvlu si hral shamana ale me prislo, ze tahle classa neni vubec orientovana na dmg sice sem ho hral jen chvilku ale stejne, vcera kdyz sem videl lvl 15 shamana jak se trapil s 3 teckovym mobem lvl 11...
Mne to prijde jako problem DOTu - maji (shaman, druid) cca stejny dmg jako nuke na podobnem levelu - akorat ho delaj 20-40sec.
Takze dot dela proste strasne malo dmg.
Nuke je na tom o neco lip, ale diky 2sec global cooldownu dela porad mnohem min dmg nez melee.
No a melee dela jen ze specek vic dmg nez nuker ale navic k tomu ma autoattack kterej je nechutne silnej.
Vysledek je ten ze dmg co da offensive melee za 5 sec dava caster 30-40 sec.
Je pravdepodobny ze se rozdil smaze v delsich bojich (min+) kde melee bude trpet cekanim na endurance.
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Darkness beyond twilight, Crimson beyond blood that flows, Buried in the stream of time is where your power grows, I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand, before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand, Let the fools who stand before me be destroyed, by the power you and I possess... DRAGON SLAVE! |
Edited by - brutus on 18/01/2007 10:23:22 |
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Pedro
Negr
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 10:29:49
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Tak sem se konecne dockal:
Disciple - Your revamp is live. Please train your new abilities
Na prvni pohled vypadaji nove specky hodne zajimave..
Dostal jsem team heal ktery muzu kastit neustale (mel jsem pouze team hot, ktery byl az treti v chainu s rekastem 1 min). Pridali nejake dmg specky (aoe otocku) a odebrali to nejvice fun co bylo zatim na disciplovi a to startovani a pokracovani v chainech. Ted mi zustaly pouze dokoncovaci specky.
Ale hlavni zmenu co sem postrehl, ze ted si musim budovat jin body jako monk, abych mohl provadet specky. Zeby konecne udelali to co planovali od zacatku?  Jo a taky disciple dostal FD uz na lvl 14 s reuse 1 minuta :) To zavani nerfem...
Uvidim jak se to bude hrat jak prijdu domu z prace... |
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brutus
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 10:46:11
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Vam zavidim jak si dokazete vybrat char :)
Ja uz mam asi 8 charu kolem levelu 10 a porad nevim co hrat :/ |
Darkness beyond twilight, Crimson beyond blood that flows, Buried in the stream of time is where your power grows, I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand, before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand, Let the fools who stand before me be destroyed, by the power you and I possess... DRAGON SLAVE! |
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Drew
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 11:45:28
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Originally posted by Pedro
Tak sem se konecne dockal:
máš si vybrat nějakej ubah char,třeba barda  ,ne nějakkýho mutanta |
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Genagen
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 12:03:41
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Disciple - Your revamp is live.
Lognul jsem se rano do discipla a krome autoataku a racial ability nemam zadnou specku :-) tomu rikam nerf panecku :-) |
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Threepio
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 12:05:20
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| hlavni problem ve vyvazeni caster class a melee/ranged je v tom, ze jakozto melee si jednoduse koupis novou zbran a zvedne se ti dmg nekam uplne do nebe, ale u casteru sem zatim nenarazil na zadny +spell dmg veci, jediny co pomaha je intellect a ten se zveda jan malinko, na vecech ho taky moc neni,spis +hp nebo + energy, takze dmg output je takovej stabilni u tech casteru a zveda se jakoby linearne. |
Tak trosku...klokan |
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VT
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 12:07:43
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Podle postu na vanguard foru je ted disciple silene overpowered. Rikaji to sami disciplisti ...
Stale tvrdim, ze Sigil nema zadnou class vizi (a pokud ji mel, tak ji v case stale meni ...).
Vidim to u BMG - kazdy den hraji ZCELA jiny class. |
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VT
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 12:12:24
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quote:
Originally posted by Threepio
hlavni problem ve vyvazeni caster class a melee/ranged je v tom, ze jakozto melee si jednoduse koupis novou zbran a zvedne se ti dmg nekam uplne do nebe, ale u casteru sem zatim nenarazil na zadny +spell dmg veci, jediny co pomaha je intellect a ten se zveda jan malinko, na vecech ho taky moc neni,spis +hp nebo + energy, takze dmg output je takovej stabilni u tech casteru a zveda se jakoby linearne.
Je spousta itemu co pridava +spell damage (stejne tak +heal).
Urcite se jeste v close bete dali koupit prstynky s +20 do spell damage; koupil jsem je v Mekalii v zone, kde jsou caster treneri. |
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brutus
Average Member
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 12:36:08
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Originally posted by Van Tassel
Stale tvrdim, ze Sigil nema zadnou class vizi (a pokud ji mel, tak ji v case stale meni ...).
Vizi classu podle mne maj - i prez ty silenosti co s tim kazdej druhej den provadej tak je kazdej class jinej a ma svoje unikatni prvky.
Spis se desim toho, ze to za ten tejden nedoladej a budou classy stejnym tempem predelavat v ostrym provozu... |
Darkness beyond twilight, Crimson beyond blood that flows, Buried in the stream of time is where your power grows, I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand, before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand, Let the fools who stand before me be destroyed, by the power you and I possess... DRAGON SLAVE! |
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Pedro
Negr
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 13:08:38
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quote:
Originally posted by Van Tassel
Podle postu na vanguard foru je ted disciple silene overpowered. Rikaji to sami disciplisti ...
Stale tvrdim, ze Sigil nema zadnou class vizi (a pokud ji mel, tak ji v case stale meni ...).
Vidim to u BMG - kazdy den hraji ZCELA jiny class.
Jasne... proto cekam, ze nasledujici tyden budu cist v PN jake a jak mi upravili specky, tak jak je na poradu dne BM a predtim byl DK. |
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brutus
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 15:25:14
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Tak tedy musim rict ze tolik casu vyberem postavy jsem snad jeste u zadne MMORPG netravil :) Jeste ze jsem sel do bety - jinak bych uz mel 14dni skluz v XPovani :)
Jinak co od charu chci:
1) Rychlost - pro mne hodne klicova zalezitost
2) CC
3) ranged dmg
Poradi neni az tak podstatny - chci aby char mel vsechny 3 veci :)
Prozatim mam favority (opet bez poradi):
Shaman
Druid
Bard (ten nema ranged dmg jinak se mne libi asi nejvic)
Psionic (speed buff ma jen 1min - ale jinak je moc fajn)
Vsechny 4 jsem hral cca do lev 10.
Je tu nekdo kdo ma tyhle chary na vyssim levelu a muze "pustit moudra" ? :) |
Darkness beyond twilight, Crimson beyond blood that flows, Buried in the stream of time is where your power grows, I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand, before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand, Let the fools who stand before me be destroyed, by the power you and I possess... DRAGON SLAVE! |
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Drew
Junior Member
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 15:35:11
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quote:
Originally posted by brutus
Prozatim mam favority (opet bez poradi):
Shaman
Druid
Bard (ten nema ranged dmg jinak se mne libi asi nejvic)
Psionic (speed buff ma jen 1min - ale jinak je moc fajn)
Vsechny 4 jsem hral cca do lev 10.
Je tu nekdo kdo ma tyhle chary na vyssim levelu a muze "pustit moudra" ? :)
jak bylo tady nebo v jiným topicu psáno,tak težko popsat barda,jak na tom bude na vyssich levelech s akci,když může pomocí 2h hracích nástrojů docela brutus boostovat buffy |
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brutus
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 15:41:14
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quote:
Originally posted by Drew
jak bylo tady nebo v jiným topicu psáno,tak težko popsat barda,jak na tom bude na vyssich levelech s akci,když může pomocí 2h hracích nástrojů docela brutus boostovat buffy
V dnesnim patchi predelali hlavni bojove songy na "Voice" - takze na ne nepusobi zadne nastroje.
Cili v boji bude bard boostovat stejne at u toho mlati nebo ne. |
Darkness beyond twilight, Crimson beyond blood that flows, Buried in the stream of time is where your power grows, I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand, before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand, Let the fools who stand before me be destroyed, by the power you and I possess... DRAGON SLAVE! |
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Marwyn
Junior Member
792 Posts |
Posted - 18/01/2007 : 15:46:11
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| sem is vcera koupil boxery pro monka a dopadlo to tak, ze mam attack rating mensi nez bez nich :) a ano, mam skill na max :P Tomu rikam frajerina si za tezce vydelany prachy koupit kurvitko damage |
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Drew
Junior Member
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 16:17:39
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quote:
Originally posted by brutus
V dnesnim patchi predelali hlavni bojove songy na "Voice" - takze na ne nepusobi zadne nastroje.
Cili v boji bude bard boostovat stejne at u toho mlati nebo ne.
mno uvidime jak to bude fungovat.
To Zevl Marw : není to tím že moba prostě netrefíš?  |
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Kromus
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 21:01:13
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quote:
Originally posted by Marwyn
sem is vcera koupil boxery pro monka a dopadlo to tak, ze mam attack rating mensi nez bez nich :) a ano, mam skill na max :P Tomu rikam frajerina si za tezce vydelany prachy koupit kurvitko damage
Jasne, itemizace monka neni dodelana (bugla) od zacatku (lepsi dps by meli mit rare/legen pricemz skutecne badatelny narust bys mel videt jen u legend boxeru - i kdyz ani v tom si nejsem 100% jistej).
Na dps jsou porad nej pesti (bare hand) ale zbrane ti zas davaji bonusy treba k tankovani a samozrejme ruzne staty. |
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Genagen
Junior Member
589 Posts |
Posted - 18/01/2007 : 21:33:02
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| Tak po update discipla mi prijde, ze na lvl 10 jsem asi nehral silnejsi class. Proti predchozimu stavu na stejnym levelu mi prijde subjektivne tak o 50% silnejsi. Mate nekdo podobny pocit? |
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VT
Moderator
4191 Posts |
Posted - 18/01/2007 : 21:37:36
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quote:
Originally posted by Genagen
Tak po update discipla mi prijde, ze na lvl 10 jsem asi nehral silnejsi class. Proti predchozimu stavu na stejnym levelu mi prijde subjektivne tak o 50% silnejsi. Mate nekdo podobny pocit?
Viz. fora - ten pocit maji uplne vsichni disciplisti. Uz pry neni potreba zadne taktiky pri boji, hrat si s hotama apod. Pry je disciple proste a jednoduse overpowered )
Ale imho nemusite mit strach, ze vam sundaj damage o 80 procent jako Blood Magum )
Blood Magum misto damage daly cervy, ktery si vyrabej z vlastni krve a vnitrnosti, ktery tahaj z mobu/lidi. Ty cervy si pak muzes strcit do nosu (nebo do nosu defenzivniho targetu) a ziskas tak napr. 15 minutovy buff co ti curuje kazdych 10 sec poison a disease :) No lepsi nez kamenem do hlavy ) |
Edited by - VT on 18/01/2007 21:38:40 |
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brutus
Average Member
1833 Posts |
Posted - 18/01/2007 : 22:10:02
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quote:
Originally posted by Genagen
Tak po update discipla mi prijde, ze na lvl 10 jsem asi nehral silnejsi class. Proti predchozimu stavu na stejnym levelu mi prijde subjektivne tak o 50% silnejsi. Mate nekdo podobny pocit?
Podle for je bug minimalne to ze Falling Petal jde spamovat.
A pravdepodobne prijde nerf i na beznej dmg.
Ale IMHO je logicky aby mel Disciple nejvetsi dmg z healeru - bojuje nablizko a nema heavy armor. |
Darkness beyond twilight, Crimson beyond blood that flows, Buried in the stream of time is where your power grows, I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand, before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand, Let the fools who stand before me be destroyed, by the power you and I possess... DRAGON SLAVE! |
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brutus
Average Member
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Posted - 19/01/2007 : 09:54:40
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Vi nekdo ktere classy jeste nemaji po rewampu?
Docela by mne zajimalo co jese predelaji :) |
Darkness beyond twilight, Crimson beyond blood that flows, Buried in the stream of time is where your power grows, I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand, before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand, Let the fools who stand before me be destroyed, by the power you and I possess... DRAGON SLAVE! |
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Pedro
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Posted - 19/01/2007 : 10:56:04
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quote:
Originally posted by brutus
quote:
Originally posted by Genagen
Tak po update discipla mi prijde, ze na lvl 10 jsem asi nehral silnejsi class. Proti predchozimu stavu na stejnym levelu mi prijde subjektivne tak o 50% silnejsi. Mate nekdo podobny pocit?
Podle for je bug minimalne to ze Falling Petal jde spamovat.
A pravdepodobne prijde nerf i na beznej dmg.
Ale IMHO je logicky aby mel Disciple nejvetsi dmg z healeru - bojuje nablizko a nema heavy armor.
Ano cely for je v jedne specce a to Falling Petal. Jde o finising specku a ta ma jit pouze pouzit kdyz das critikal hit. Momentalne jde spamovat porad. Jinak narust dmg neni skoro zadny (pridali nove dmg specky, ale zaroven jim snizili dmg). Autoatak srovnavali na uroven monku uz 2 dny pred rewampem.
Takze az opravi tenhle bug, tak budem s dps asi stejne jak pred rewampem.
Jedine co se mi zda owerpovered jsou ted healy. Pridali team heal a healy co se daji pouzit pri melle utocich. |
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Demawend
Moderator
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Posted - 19/01/2007 : 12:48:41
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Vcera jsem hral barda a hrani songu mu neubira zadnou energy, taky zmizela ta komponenta do songu, co zmirnovala spotrebu energy. Tak jsem si udelal takovej super damage add jeste s kritem, co by mi jinak sezral vsechnu enegry za par sekund, vzal jsem si do rukou dve sekerky a zabijel jsem 2dotaky 2 levely nade mnou na dve machnuti
Pripadal jsem si jak z filmu Braindead od Petera Jacksona v te scene na konci jak vezmu sekacku na travu..... |
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Drew
Junior Member
583 Posts |
Posted - 19/01/2007 : 12:57:07
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quote:
Originally posted by Demawend
Vcera jsem hral barda a hrani songu mu neubira zadnou energy, taky zmizela ta komponenta do songu, co zmirnovala spotrebu energy. Tak jsem si udelal takovej super damage add jeste s kritem, co by mi jinak sezral vsechnu enegry za par sekund, vzal jsem si do rukou dve sekerky a zabijel jsem 2dotaky 2 levely nade mnou na dve machnuti
jj taky jsem zkousel,akorat jsem asi 2x v zápalu boje a nepřemožitelnosti cipnul |
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brutus
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Posted - 19/01/2007 : 15:49:29
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Tak se zda ze ve vcerejsim patchi poladili melee x caster balanece (pomalejsi regenerace END, delay na start regenerace 2sec) a dneska uz na local channelech brecej offensive fighteri ze jim znicili class (aneb ze uz nestaci spamovat nonstop melee specku a zabit tak cokoliv).
Skusil jsem vytahnout barda a je to porad v pohode - sice mu po tech cca 5ti speckach dojde endurance (a musi pak cekat 2 autoattacky mez lze pouzit znova) ale i tak zabiji porad rychlejc nez caster. |
Darkness beyond twilight, Crimson beyond blood that flows, Buried in the stream of time is where your power grows, I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand, before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand, Let the fools who stand before me be destroyed, by the power you and I possess... DRAGON SLAVE! |
Edited by - brutus on 19/01/2007 15:50:53 |
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Nixon
Starting Member
16 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2007 : 09:30:33
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zdravim :-)
tááák, já se chystám na High Elf/Sorcerer.. zatim
nehrál sem - nevim - nemůžu posoudit jakej je..
ale dycky se mi líbili kouzelníci :-) |
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anachronox
Starting Member
35 Posts |
Posted - 28/01/2007 : 10:14:18
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Zdravim vas
par lidi me asi zna Ze:-)
v kazdem pripade mam dotaz muzete jsem napsat vas nazor na prime porovnani final fantasy 11 a vanguard ?
stale jsem /ted celkem obcasnym clenem ff /
Prosim uvedte alespon 5 bodu srovnani s ff +- cokoliv uvazuji o migraci ale jeste nevim
HW 3500+ 2gb x800xl pojede to?
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Rashaverak
Senior Member
3722 Posts |
Posted - 28/01/2007 : 10:54:22
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quote:
Originally posted by anachronox
Zdravim vas
par lidi me asi zna Ze:-)
v kazdem pripade mam dotaz muzete jsem napsat vas nazor na prime porovnani final fantasy 11 a vanguard ?
stale jsem /ted celkem obcasnym clenem ff /
Prosim uvedte alespon 5 bodu srovnani s ff +- cokoliv uvazuji o migraci ale jeste nevim
HW 3500+ 2gb x800xl pojede to?
thx
hra ma mnohem bliz k hram jako eq2 nebo wow nez k ffxi
nicmene je preci jen trosku tezsi, umrtim ztracis xpcka (pokud si nedobehnes k mrtvole), ackoliv delevelovat nejde. max lvl 50 bych rekl ze se bude delat asi podobne dlouho jako v ffxi lvl 50.
hra ma pvp ffa server
hezci grafika, pokud koupis komp za 40K
pve je v porovnani s ffxi jednoducha placana, jako ostatne vsechny ostatni mmorpg :)
nekolikanasobne vetsi ceska komunita ve vg nez v ffxi ktera ma potencional hodne rust, narozdil od ffxi
hra zacina, hodne bugu, nevyvazene classy jak na pve tak na pvp (mnohem vic), momentalne i velke tehnicke problemy
na tvem hw ti to pojede urcite, nevim asi na balanced |
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Edited by - Rashaverak on 28/01/2007 10:55:16 |
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