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Kaz
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Posted - 04/01/2006 :  08:45:17  Show Profile  Send Kaz an ICQ Message Send Kaz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nevim jestli jste zaregistrovali...

Ohlaseni na foru

Oficialni stranka Zatim jen s Coming Soon

EQ2: Morigu <Pohodari> Fae |Conjuror| Nagafen
R.I.P.
Vanguard: Kazgoroth <MdK> Dark Elf |Necromancer| Gelenia
EQ2: Kazgoroth <MdK> Erudite |Warlock| Runnyeye

Edited by - Kaz on 04/01/2006 08:50:08

Jaris
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JarisX

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Posted - 04/01/2006 :  08:52:11  Show Profile  Send Jaris an ICQ Message Send Jaris a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To je dobre, raidy T6 tak do posledniho brezna (level charu 65 az 68) pak na T7


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Tibor
<Mor do Kuli>

1443 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2006 :  09:23:29  Show Profile  Visit Tibor's Homepage  Send Tibor an ICQ Message Send Tibor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Už se těším na PvP server.
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Jaris
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JarisX

1545 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2006 :  09:28:57  Show Profile  Send Jaris an ICQ Message Send Jaris a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tibor

Už se těším na PvP server.



PvP server sux. Expa a raidy rox


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Dr.Krychlin
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Posted - 04/01/2006 :  13:33:34  Show Profile Send Dr.Krychlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
RAIDs, RAIDs, RAIDs... and even more RAIDING!

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Kwah
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Posted - 04/01/2006 :  13:49:00  Show Profile  Send Kwah an ICQ Message Send Kwah a Private Message  Reply with Quote
skoro bych rek, ze je na case poohlidnout se po necem jinem
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Kuzmik
Ganja farmer

1328 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2006 :  13:52:46  Show Profile  Send Kuzmik an ICQ Message Send Kuzmik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Parada.... ja rozhodne planuju udelat si novej char na PvP serveru pro oddychovku. KDyz to vemu podle stavajiciho stavu, bude to akorat. S Kuzmou na lvl 60 nemam co delat uz minimalne 2 mesice

"Nobody likes you. Everybody hates you. You're gonna lose. Smile, you fuck!"
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Giltanas
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Posted - 04/01/2006 :  13:59:48  Show Profile  Send Giltanas an ICQ Message Send Giltanas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tibor

Už se těším na PvP server.



Hmmm zacinam uvazovat o navratu :-)

EVE online Alypia, Aureol T'haen - CHON
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Kuzmik
Ganja farmer

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Posted - 04/01/2006 :  14:03:11  Show Profile  Send Kuzmik an ICQ Message Send Kuzmik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kdyz uz o tom mluvime... a vime, ze budou novy PvP servery, mohli by sme se tak trosku zamyslet. Pocitam ze stejny pripad jako ja bude 80% CZ/SK komunity, a zkusi si kazdej zalozit novej char na PvP serveru a PvP si budou chtit lide vyzkouset.

Mohli by sme se vyhnout zbytecnostem jako vznikly na RE, ze je 5 guild a dopredu se rovnou dohodnout na jedne guilde a tam se vsichni sejit a sjednotit.
To same se tyka vyberu serveru... vybrat jeden a kdo bude chtit se prida. I ted je spousty lidi co hraji na jinem nez Runnyey serveru.
Mohly by sme tim polozit slusnej zakladni kamen pro budouci HC PvP hrace, kteri se tomu budou chtit venovat naplno.

Ale je to jen napad, nikoho nenutim. A ani neberu argumenty ze to nejde protoze takova komunita nefunguje... z vlastni zkusenosti vim ze funguje a MdK/RL jsou toho jasnym dukazem

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Giltanas
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Posted - 04/01/2006 :  14:07:12  Show Profile  Send Giltanas an ICQ Message Send Giltanas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jen se dohodnete. Jen doporucuju dve guildy. Ono je naprd na PvP serveru zdruzovat lidi z obou stran do jedny guildy :-)

EVE online Alypia, Aureol T'haen - CHON
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Genagen
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589 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2006 :  15:08:29  Show Profile  Visit Genagen's Homepage  Send Genagen an ICQ Message Send Genagen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ono je naprd na PvP serveru zdruzovat lidi z obou stran do jedny guildy

Pokud si dobre pamatuji co jsem o pvp serverech cca pred mesicem cetl, tak to ani nepujde.

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Kurik
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Posted - 04/01/2006 :  23:41:19  Show Profile  Visit Kurik's Homepage  Send Kurik an ICQ Message Send Kurik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ja sem spis zklamanej. vsechno, co puvodne v eq2 bejt nemelo, se do nej dostava. PvP, AA a stale vice grindu...

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Jaris
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JarisX

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Posted - 05/01/2006 :  00:16:10  Show Profile  Send Jaris an ICQ Message Send Jaris a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kurik

ja sem spis zklamanej. vsechno, co puvodne v eq2 bejt nemelo, se do nej dostava. PvP, AA a stale vice grindu...



Grindu? Jakeho grindu? Co to hrajes za hru? Asi mame jiny nazor, co melo EQ2 byt a co je


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Kurik
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Posted - 05/01/2006 :  01:08:25  Show Profile  Visit Kurik's Homepage  Send Kurik an ICQ Message Send Kurik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jaris
Grindu? Jakeho grindu? Co to hrajes za hru? Asi mame jiny nazor, co melo EQ2 byt a co je


jasne, ze mame odlisnej nazor, jinak to ani byt nemuze :)
pro me eq2 nejak zase ztraci kouzlo a tenhle datadisk to jen dorazi. nema cenu se rozcilovat nad tim, ze "to nechapu", proste se na to divam jinak. Pro me jeneustaly zvysovani levelu problem, ztracim nadeji, ze se dopizlam nekam nahoru, budu mit rozumn yvybaveni a konecne budu moct obcas treba i na nejakej raid. Samotny levelovani moc zabavny neni, questu na vyssich levelech neni tolik co na zacatku a jejich splneni vyzaduje hodne casu nebo skupinu nebo mnohonasobny litani mezi dvema lokacema, coz je otrava (treba posledni event, pokud clovek netusil, ze bude muset dat magorovi 100 uhli, tak mohl taky zonovat sem a tam 5x, zabava jak stehno)

No a leveleni bojem? Nuda, alespon za mnou postavu, trva to moc dlouho a neni v tom moc vzruseni - chapu, ve skupine to muze byt jinak, ale o hrani v grupach jsme toho uz napovidali hodne, pick-ip grupy vetsinou nesou horsi vysledek nez to pomalejsi zabijeni solo.
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Klattu
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Posted - 05/01/2006 :  07:53:26  Show Profile Send Klattu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Osobne me ten datadisk prijde taky trochu brzo.... ikdyz je to pul roku ... nicmene, spis to chtelo dalsi AP nez DataD.

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Atronach
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casea

2069 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2006 :  08:08:33  Show Profile Send Atronach a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Klattu

Osobne me ten datadisk prijde taky trochu brzo.... ikdyz je to pul roku ... nicmene, spis to chtelo dalsi AP nez DataD.

Osobne si myslim ze soe udelalo tu chybu, ze udelalo vse pro to, aby vsichni byli hned L60 (flasticky, vitalita atp) a tim tu hru pokazili. Dalsi DD je jen dusledek - lidi nemaj co delat (nepocitam IMO mensinu tech co chteji raidovat T6).


WOW: Kasicka, Druid, [Ceska Legie]. Moonglade
TESO: Kasicka, Templar, [Ceska Legie, MdK], EU
Rift: Kasicka, Cleric, [Ceska legie], Gelidra
EQ2: Kasicka, Inquizitor, [Ceska legie], Splitpaw
AoC: Casea, Necro, [Legie], Dagon
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Jaris
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JarisX

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Posted - 05/01/2006 :  08:16:50  Show Profile  Send Jaris an ICQ Message Send Jaris a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No to si dovolim oponovat.

1) Vetsina hracu NENI level 60 - hraci maji co delat

2) Ti co jsou 60 tak jeste nemaji prolezle vse - napr. my budeme T6 raidovat jeste alespon 3 mesice (nez bude level na T7) a dovolim si pochybovat, ze zvladnem vse - hraci maji co delat

3) Questu na high levlu je opravdu hodne. Ruku na srdce, kdo zde ma vsechny velke quest rady? Ro nahrdelnik, HQ, prismatic 2 (peackock), court serii (fate ring) a djinn serii? Imho asi nikdo nema jeste hotovo a to mluvim jen o velkych seriich questu - lidi maji co delat

4) Uplynulo pul roku - to je celkem solidni doba na dalsi datadisk. ja osobne bych snesl asi 8 mesicu, ale treba prvni byl po 10 a to bylo imho pozde. A nelze brat nekoho, kdo a) prisel pozde (pak samo nestihl vse i kdyz hraje hodne) a za b) hraje malo (pak ho nic nenuti spechat, ale high end budou mit samozrejme JEN aktivni hraci)


Jaris Lesser Giant Dread Knight - Vanguard Gelenia
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Khostri
prudič

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Posted - 05/01/2006 :  08:53:06  Show Profile  Send Khostri an ICQ Message Send Khostri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No jestli ale jak psal Klattu není pak přesně lepší řešení vydat Adventure pack s dalšími questy, lokací a příběhem, než celý datadisk, kde se opět navýší level :)
Každopádně to berte jako názor někoho, kdo teď EQ2 nehraje. Chystám se na to koncem února znova :)

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Zuzug
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Posted - 05/01/2006 :  09:00:52  Show Profile  Send Zuzug an ICQ Message Send Zuzug a Private Message  Reply with Quote
jo je to moc brzo, skoda vyhozenejch platin za mastery a equip
ikdyz PvP si rad vyzkousim


Zuzug the conjuror - lvl 70 (Mor do Kuli) EQ2 PvE Runnyeye EU (retired)
Ajeto V'Prdeli the conjuror - lvl 80 (Pohodari) EQ2 PvP Nagafen US
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Kurik
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Posted - 05/01/2006 :  11:37:51  Show Profile  Visit Kurik's Homepage  Send Kurik an ICQ Message Send Kurik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jaris
bla bla

no, ten nazor zas az tak rozdilnej nemame nakonec, na lvl 60 opravdu neni vetsina, coz je prave ono - proc zase zvysovat cap?

questy, o kterych mluvis jsou narocny, trvaji dlouho a neni jich moc, jen nejdou snadno splnit, vezmi si, kolik questu mas na lvl 10-20 a to timhle usekem projedes mnohem rychlejs nez 40-50.

jsem zvedavej, co sony mysli obsahem pro vsechny levely, treba to nakonec bude zajimavy, ale jsem proste skeptickej
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Genagen
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Posted - 05/01/2006 :  12:10:55  Show Profile  Visit Genagen's Homepage  Send Genagen an ICQ Message Send Genagen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
questy, o kterych mluvis jsou narocny, trvaji dlouho a neni jich moc, jen nejdou snadno splni

Nemas pravdu. Jsou to velmi dlouhe serie questu. Je jich hodne. Odhadem v expanzi dofu mi prijde minimalnestejne obsahu jako v celem eq pred tim. Ale je to mozna jen zdani. Ale na nedostaek obsahu si stezovat je IMO kravina Kuriku.

IMO jedinej duvod, proc SOE jde s timhle datadiskem tak brzo je WOW, kteremu nevysel pokud si pamatuju dobre jeste ani jeden.

Me ten novej tier tak brzo dost mrzi. Jeste nemam full fabled armor (ale uz skoro jo :-)) a uz abych se staral znova :-( Navic logicky klesnou ceny vseho, takze ti, kteri se snazili vybavit se co nejlip co nejrychlejc na tom budou o dost hur, ne kdyby prisel datadisk nekdy v lete (coz by IMO bylo tak akorat.

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Lekarnik
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Posted - 05/01/2006 :  12:19:42  Show Profile  Send Lekarnik an ICQ Message Send Lekarnik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Zuzug

jo je to moc brzo, skoda vyhozenejch platin za mastery a equip
ikdyz PvP si rad vyzkousim




No myslím si,že SOE po neúspěších s AP(ikdyž splitpaw měla dobrej úspěch) a kolik se jim prodalo datadisků v tom vidím čistej marketingovej tah...
Blizzard dělá něco podobnýho,až na to,teda,že na tom nerejžuje love(viz s velkým updatem nějaká lokace,aby měli maniaci na max levelu co dělat)...

btw.Myslím,že ti co mají chuť si zahrát i PvP je nápad s velkou CZ guildou na PvP serveru dobrej...


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VT
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Posted - 05/01/2006 :  12:51:46  Show Profile Send VT a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Genagen
IMO jedinej duvod, proc SOE jde s timhle datadiskem tak brzo je WOW, kteremu nevysel pokud si pamatuju dobre jeste ani jeden.



SOE vydava pro EQ1 datadisky cca kazdeho pul roku uz pet let, u EQ2 s tim pokracuje.
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Kurik
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Posted - 05/01/2006 :  12:53:49  Show Profile  Visit Kurik's Homepage  Send Kurik an ICQ Message Send Kurik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Genagen

questy, o kterych mluvis jsou narocny, trvaji dlouho a neni jich moc, jen nejdou snadno splni

Nemas pravdu. Jsou to velmi dlouhe serie questu. Je jich hodne. Odhadem v expanzi dofu mi prijde minimalnestejne obsahu jako v celem eq pred tim. Ale je to mozna jen zdani. Ale na nedostaek obsahu si stezovat je IMO kravina Kuriku.



ja nevim, jsem lvl 45, hraju v ss, ef (ls je zabitej, group only) - questu, ktery bych mohl delat je malo, jajk to vypada na 50+ nevim, jeslti je tam vic drobnych solo questu, super.

jinak datadisk takhle brzy ma imho jiny duvod - dostanou tak eq2 zase na police obchodu - tohle je pro prodeje naprosto klicovy, jakmile hra neni v krameh, lidi ji moc nekupujou a AP, ktery by byl vhodnejsi nez cely datadisk takhle brzy se nekrabicuje, je to jen download
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Jaris
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JarisX

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Posted - 05/01/2006 :  13:05:00  Show Profile  Send Jaris an ICQ Message Send Jaris a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Online hry ziji hlavne z poplatku, ne z prodeju, ktere jsou vitane zpestreni.

Jinak nikoho hra nenuti hrat v tieru, na ktery nema level, ne druhou stranu hra nechce prijit o tech 10 az 15 procent high end hracu, kteri za pul rok datadisk uhraji. Tito hraci 1) zustavaji u hry dlouho (viz o tom, co nese penize - mesicni poplatky) a za 2) davaji motivaci tem zbylim 85 az 90 procentum tim, jak ukazuji, co kde ziskali.

Kurik je specificky v tom, ze chce hrat sam, ne moc casto a ne moc vykonne ale chtel by byt s equipem na urovni jako hraci, kteri hraji casto a na exp/loot a v skupinach/raidech. To asi nejde, jako ja v zivote neskocim svetovy rekord ve skoku do vysky ba co, ani nikdy neskocim poradne...

Nejak nechapu, proc by level 20 hraci melo vadit, ze existuje hra do levlu 200, pokud ho hra na levlu 20 bavi a ma co delat. A pokud breci, ze si nezahraje s high end hraci, ma jednoduchou moznost hrat jako oni...


Jaris Lesser Giant Dread Knight - Vanguard Gelenia
Jarisa Highelf Mystic - EQ2 Runnyeye
Jaris Halfelf Troubador - EQ2 Runnyeye
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Genagen
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Posted - 05/01/2006 :  13:07:17  Show Profile  Visit Genagen's Homepage  Send Genagen an ICQ Message Send Genagen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
SOE vydava pro EQ1 datadisky cca kazdeho pul roku uz pet let, u EQ2 s tim pokracuje.

To je pravda. Ale ne v kazdym bylpridan novej tier. To si myslim, ze je ted na to hrozne brzo. Pridat novej tier 5 mesicu po predchoizim pridani tieru mi prijde skara brzo.

Jinak s tim odstanim krabic do obchodu mas Kuriku asi pravdu, nicmene na ten WOW bych taky sazel :-).

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Atronach
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casea

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Posted - 05/01/2006 :  13:08:16  Show Profile Send Atronach a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jaris
Kurik je specificky v tom, ze chce hrat sam, ne moc casto a ne moc vykonne ale chtel by byt s equipem na urovni jako hraci, kteri hraji casto a na exp/loot a v skupinach/raidech.

Nejak nechapu, proc by level 20 hraci melo vadit, ze existuje hra do levlu 200, pokud ho hra na levlu 20 bavi a ma co delat. A pokud breci, ze si nezahraje s high end hraci, ma jednoduchou moznost hrat jako oni.


Svata pravda...

WOW: Kasicka, Druid, [Ceska Legie]. Moonglade
TESO: Kasicka, Templar, [Ceska Legie, MdK], EU
Rift: Kasicka, Cleric, [Ceska legie], Gelidra
EQ2: Kasicka, Inquizitor, [Ceska legie], Splitpaw
AoC: Casea, Necro, [Legie], Dagon
Lotro: Casea, Minstrel, [Myth], Snow
Vanguard [R.I.P.]: Attronach, High Elf Psionist, [MdK]

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Genagen
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Posted - 05/01/2006 :  13:08:52  Show Profile  Visit Genagen's Homepage  Send Genagen an ICQ Message Send Genagen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Blizzard dělá něco podobnýho,až na to,teda,že na tom nerejžuje love(viz s velkým updatem nějaká lokace,aby měli maniaci na max levelu co dělat)..

SOE v eq2 dela to samy. U nekolika updatu byly pridany novy zony, novej content. Treba Frogloci content byl pridanej v ramci normalniho updatu. Spousta solo zon na zeku atp.

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Kurik
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Posted - 05/01/2006 :  13:21:51  Show Profile  Visit Kurik's Homepage  Send Kurik an ICQ Message Send Kurik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jaris

Online hry ziji hlavne z poplatku, ne z prodeju, ktere jsou vitane zpestreni.

Jinak nikoho hra nenuti hrat v tieru, na ktery nema level, ne druhou stranu hra nechce prijit o tech 10 az 15 procent high end hracu, kteri za pul rok datadisk uhraji. Tito hraci 1) zustavaji u hry dlouho (viz o tom, co nese penize - mesicni poplatky) a za 2) davaji motivaci tem zbylim 85 az 90 procentum tim, jak ukazuji, co kde ziskali.

Kurik je specificky v tom, ze chce hrat sam, ne moc casto a ne moc vykonne ale chtel by byt s equipem na urovni jako hraci, kteri hraji casto a na exp/loot a v skupinach/raidech. To asi nejde, jako ja v zivote neskocim svetovy rekord ve skoku do vysky ba co, ani nikdy neskocim poradne...

Nejak nechapu, proc by level 20 hraci melo vadit, ze existuje hra do levlu 200, pokud ho hra na levlu 20 bavi a ma co delat. A pokud breci, ze si nezahraje s high end hraci, ma jednoduchou moznost hrat jako oni...


nejde o prodeje, jde o to, ze prodanim hry ziskavas dalsiho platice poplatku - hru typu EQ2 musi hrat hodne lidi, aby byla rentabilni a prootze pokud nemas priliv novyhc hracu, hraci ubyvaji, potrebuji dostavat do obchodu nove krabice - to je proste, kdyz s se podivas do devtrackeru,t ak tam na tohle tema uvidis zajimavy posty, nedavno resili, ze eq2 neni v nekterejch americkejch obchodech vubec videt, zatimco wow ma cely police

co se tyka tveho hodnoceni meho stylu hrnai, tak se myslis, nemam potrebu mit fabled ani heritage itemy, ale chci, aby me hra bavila a to u EQ2 neni vzdycky pravda. Spis mi chybi vic drobnejsich questu, ktery se daji udelat solo, vetsi variabilita nepratel a souboju - coz tenhel datadisk neresi, akorat prinese to, o cme jsme uz mluvil - dalsi grind levelu a AP, aby clovek mel sanci ve slusny grupe nebo na raidu.

Solo vs group nema cenu resit, moderni mmoprg by mela podporovat oba styly hrani a jen by mela spravne nastavit risk/reward, aby solo hrac mel sanci ziskat zajimave odmeny, ale aby ty nejlepsi vecy byly vyhrazene raium a dungeonum. Ale kdyz se podivas na skalovani predmetu, tak rozdily jsou relativne maly - desetiny a jednotky procent zlepseni casto, pro harcode hrace muze byt tohle dostatecna motivace, pro normalniho cloveka je to nekde na hranici rozlisitelnosti.
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Jaris
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quote:
Originally posted by Kurik

Solo vs group nema cenu resit, moderni mmoprg by mela podporovat oba styly hrani a jen by mela spravne nastavit risk/reward, aby solo hrac mel sanci ziskat zajimave odmeny, ale aby ty nejlepsi vecy byly vyhrazene raium a dungeonum. Ale kdyz se podivas na skalovani predmetu, tak rozdily jsou relativne maly - desetiny a jednotky procent zlepseni casto, pro harcode hrace muze byt tohle dostatecna motivace, pro normalniho cloveka je to nekde na hranici rozlisitelnosti.



Jen k tomuto, rozdil mezi solo rewardem a raid rewardem na mobovi daneho levlu je sileny. a bavim se jak o treasured lak legendary tak fabled. To neni hadani, to je zkusenost. Muj fabled equip ze normal solo/group moba nebo low raid moba muzu vyhodit, pokud se objevi legendary z normal raid moba. Normal je muj level, low je o 5 levlu nize...


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Kurik
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Posted - 05/01/2006 :  13:53:22  Show Profile  Visit Kurik's Homepage  Send Kurik an ICQ Message Send Kurik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jaris

[quote]Originally posted by Kurik

Jen k tomuto, rozdil mezi solo rewardem a raid rewardem na mobovi daneho levlu je sileny. a bavim se jak o treasured lak legendary tak fabled. To neni hadani, to je zkusenost. Muj fabled equip ze normal solo/group moba nebo low raid moba muzu vyhodit, pokud se objevi legendary z normal raid moba. Normal je muj level, low je o 5 levlu nize...



rozdil mezi treasured solo a fabled asi jo, i kdyz mezi legendary a fablet mi ten rozdil vetsinou neprijde extremne vyraznej - ale jde o solo reward - tam prave schazi motivace, protoze ty rozdily jsou minimalni, vetsinou vyraznejsi zmena priojde pri prelomu tieru pokud nakoupis alespon crafteny veci.

ono by uplne stacilo, kdyz josu rozdily maly, aby bylo vic ruznech vzhledu. naopak u fabled to ted vypada dost trapne, kdyz kazdej kus ma jinou barvu podle mista, dokud je, lidi vypadaji jako strasaci a moznost barveni nikde neni. pritom treba suproviny na barveni nebo rovnou potiony by byly super solo "rare" reward.

uz tohho radis necham, chapu, ze nektere lidi me nazory rozciluji, ale fakt mi vadi, kdyz to nekdo shrne do tvrzeni, ze chci max odmenu za nulovou namahu
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Kaz
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Posted - 05/01/2006 :  14:15:09  Show Profile  Send Kaz an ICQ Message Send Kaz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Tak napr fabled z group Poet's Palace


A fabled z raid moba


popr legendary z raid moba

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crap!


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Kurik
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quote:
Originally posted by Kaz

Tak napr fabled z group Poet's Palace



nevypadaji spatne, ale clovek by potreboval kalkulacku :)
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DEADLYSHADE
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POZOR POZOR POZOR Změna !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Kwah
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neco k prechodu mezi T6 a T7 equipem:

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Ixnay wrote:



But my biggest problem was the thought of having my new fabled gear become obsolete on the release day of KoS, just months or even a few weeks after I earned it.
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That's a totally valid concern.

The crafted armor and weapons that can be made from rare harvests in DoF now, to put it simply, are too good. And yes, that fact ended up hurting the expected progression from raid content in the original game to raid stuff in the expansion, because stuff became obsolete too quickly. Going back and nerfing the level 50+ crafted isn't an option anymore, since way too many players have it. So we have rightfully taken some lumps as a result, and many of you are worried that the same thing will happen again.

Although words are just words until you see them in action, hopefully this post will ease some of that concern. Here are the basic goals.

If you're at the level cap and play solo, in small groups, or in full groups, you probably currently wear rare crafted and use some dropped items. You'll be replacing those with the new levels of rare crafted and group drops in KoS, but you won't see the same huge leap in the level 60+ rare crafted that you saw over the level 50 stuff. But you will see the recent trend continue of having group-obtainable dropped items that you actually want to seek out and obtain.

If you plan to raid in KoS, you'll want the fabled gear from DoF to do it. In other words, you will be moving from fabled gear to fabled gear, not from fabled to crafted to fabled. You shouldn't have to replace your gear twice in order to fight the next batch of raid content, and we want the fabled stuff you obtain in DoF to be valuable and prestigious into the next expansion.

It's a balancing act that we didn't handle as well as we should have the first time around, but we've done a lot of planning and behind-the-scenes implementation to do better this time. I think you'll see that pay off going forward.
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Jaris
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Posted - 10/01/2006 :  08:59:00  Show Profile  Send Jaris an ICQ Message Send Jaris a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Toto je velmi dobra z prava a logicky postup. Proste T6 raid fabled bude lepsi nez T7 rare crafted. Velmi dobre, grats SOE !!!

Dulezite je imho hlavne to slovo raid u fabled...


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Posted - 10/01/2006 :  16:31:26  Show Profile  Send Eskel an ICQ Message Send Eskel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jaris

Toto je velmi dobra z prava a logicky postup. Proste T6 raid fabled bude lepsi nez T7 rare crafted. Velmi dobre, grats SOE !!!

Dulezite je imho hlavne to slovo raid u fabled...



Myslim, ze je to tak spravne. Urcite by to melo byt lepsi, protoze rare je na rozdil od fabled dostupne kazdemu

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otevrena registrace do bety datace a pvp
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fedaikin
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Nepřijde Vám to vysloveně od SOE sprostý? Čerpáno z oficiálního FAQ.

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How much does Kingdom of Sky cost?

Can I buy it both at retail and digitally?
Kingdom of Sky will be available as both a digital download and at a retail store near you.

U.S. Digital
Pre-order and purchase the digital download version of the expansion directly from Sony Online Entertainment and receive a $3.00 discount off the suggested retail package price, making it $26.99! But hurry, the day the expansion goes live, this digital download pre-order offer will expire. Original EverQuest II game required (sold separately).

U.S Retail
If you purchase EverQuest® II Kingdom of Sky™ at a participating store near you or an online retailer, you’ll receive a full-color poster sized map of the Dragon Isles, the third limited edition collectible EverQuest II coin, and a special in-game carnivorous plant for your house that’ll reward you with potions in return for edible items. The Kingdom of Sky expansion also includes the original version of EQII, so now’s a perfect time for new players to jump in for the suggested retail price of $29.99! DVD only.

How will Kingdom of Sky be distributed in Europe?
The retail European product will be a Trilogy, including the original version of EverQuest II, Desert of Flames, and Kingdom of Sky. It does not come with any bonuses.

The digital download from the Ubisoft Store will be Kingdom of Sky only and will include an in-game carnivorous plant for your house that'll reward you with potions in return for edible items, and has an anticipated availability date of February 21. You will receive a 3 euro off discount for pre-ordering.
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Marwyn
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vsak je to pro amiky, jinak by ani neexistoval paladin :)

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quote:
Originally posted by Marwyn

vsak je to pro amiky, jinak by ani neexistoval paladin :)



Woe!

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quote:
Originally posted by Jaris

Toto je velmi dobra z prava a logicky postup. Proste T6 raid fabled bude lepsi nez T7 rare crafted. Velmi dobre, grats SOE !!!

Dulezite je imho hlavne to slovo raid u fabled...



Imo T6 fabled bude stejna uroven jako T7 legendary, mozna krapet lepsi aby se nemuselo, jak Moogard rika, T6 fabled->T7 legend->T7 fabled ale jen T6f->T7f

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quote:
Originally posted by Kromus
Imo T6 fabled bude stejna uroven jako T7 legendary, mozna krapet lepsi aby se nemuselo, jak Moogard rika, T6 fabled->T7 legend->T7 fabled ale jen T6f->T7f



IMO to zas celý po***

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Jaris
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quote:
Originally posted by Dr.Krychlin

IMO to zas celý po***



Imho ne, super, dalsi progres


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Pedro
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Posted - 21/02/2006 :  10:53:29  Show Profile  Send Pedro an ICQ Message Send Pedro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ehm ehm primy download z Ubisoftu....
File 1 : Click here to start downloading the file (34 MB)
File 2 : Click here to start downloading the file (1502 MB)
File 3: Click here to start downloading the file (881 MB)
to by me zajimalo jestli tohle musi sosat (pres patcher) i lidi co si KoS nekoupili...

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Tibor
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Posted - 21/02/2006 :  11:20:00  Show Profile  Visit Tibor's Homepage  Send Tibor an ICQ Message Send Tibor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Všechno ne, ale armory a ty nové čepičky určitě ano. :)
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Snek
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quote:
Originally posted by Pedro

Ehm ehm primy download z Ubisoftu....
File 1 : Click here to start downloading the file (34 MB)
File 2 : Click here to start downloading the file (1502 MB)
File 3: Click here to start downloading the file (881 MB)
to by me zajimalo jestli tohle musi sosat (pres patcher) i lidi co si KoS nekoupili...

Btw, pekne me Ubi nastvalo - zadny mail o downloadu neposlali, ale naopak to vystavili driv (coz jsem nevedel, takze jsem to nepustil pred odchodem do prace, ackoliv bych byval mohl)
A predpokladam, ze (velka) cast toho se urcite bez KoS tahat nemusi.
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Kromus
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Posted - 21/02/2006 :  11:34:46  Show Profile  Send Kromus an ICQ Message Send Kromus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pedro

Ehm ehm primy download z Ubisoftu....
File 1 : Click here to start downloading the file (34 MB)
File 2 : Click here to start downloading the file (1502 MB)
File 3: Click here to start downloading the file (881 MB)
to by me zajimalo jestli tohle musi sosat (pres patcher) i lidi co si KoS nekoupili...



Tak to mam cely i s activ. keyem... uz jen cekat na patch
Hlavne se mi libilo jak nekdo rikal "bude to mit 600-700MB" muheh.

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Genagen
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Posted - 21/02/2006 :  11:38:39  Show Profile  Visit Genagen's Homepage  Send Genagen an ICQ Message Send Genagen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ja to se svoji linkou dotahnu tak v nedeli :-( Ach jooo.

Jinak ty fajliky od ubi se mi stahovat nechce - u DOFu to pry dopadlo tak, ze jste si stahli DOF z UBI, naistalovali a pak to cely znova stahnul patcher. Toho bych se dockat nechtel teda. :-(

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Pedro
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Posted - 21/02/2006 :  11:41:13  Show Profile  Send Pedro an ICQ Message Send Pedro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kromus

Tak to mam cely i s activ. keyem... uz jen cekat na patch
Hlavne se mi libilo jak nekdo rikal "bude to mit 600-700MB" muheh.


No a stejne musis cekat jako vsichni ostatni az nahodi servery....
Tady se nekdo strachoval ze nebude mit prvni KoS a stejne cekas .

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