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VT
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Posted - 02/11/2007 :  11:57:41  Show Profile Send VT a Private Message  Reply with Quote
edit: tak uz jsem si nasel odpovedi sam na http://www.hellgateguru.com

Jenom nevim jestli se vydat cestou supportniho damage deleara co si na solo ani neskrtne (pure sniper) nebo aea silenyho strelce s napalmem ...

Edited by - VT on 02/11/2007 16:44:41

†… Havran …†
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Posted - 02/11/2007 :  17:07:21  Show Profile  Send †… Havran …† an ICQ Message Send †… Havran …† a Private Message  Reply with Quote
taky ted premylsim jaky templaty tam budu cvakat...

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Posted - 02/11/2007 :  17:43:59  Show Profile  Send PRIBOO an ICQ Message Send PRIBOO a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pochybuju že to vymyslíte . Vzhledem k tomu že se da naclicat tak 5 - 6 skillu na full 50 a marksman to ma dost rozhozeny a nikdo nema tucha co je jak pouzitelny. Premyslel sem nad tim vcera celej den a pak založil engiho
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†… Havran …†
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Posted - 02/11/2007 :  18:25:20  Show Profile  Send †… Havran …† an ICQ Message Send †… Havran …† a Private Message  Reply with Quote
no tak bud udelam kropice co vsechno krosi nebo takovyho kropice ale co kropy trosku min :))))

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Posted - 02/11/2007 :  18:30:18  Show Profile  Visit Rodier's Homepage  Send Rodier an ICQ Message Send Rodier a Private Message  Reply with Quote
prijde mi ten napalm atp docela na nic dycky utecou :-D

prdel je s raketometem jako 2. zbran


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Secondly, you will still buy this. Stop fishing for attention you lonely little troll.
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Kar-Chee
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Posted - 02/11/2007 :  19:18:27  Show Profile Send Kar-Chee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kdyz to porovnate vzhledem k tomu co s enejvic zlepsuje, tak jednoznacne rapid fire. Navic myslim, ze s teleportovacima potvorama je sniper dost naprd.

Otazka je jestli pouzivat granaty a napalm. Puvodne jsem myslel ze ne, protoze maji dany dmg (na high lvlu k nicemu). Ale pak jsem si vsiml, ze ten dmg se po lvlech zvetsuje. po vasich lvlech, ne po lvlech kouzla. I kdyz to taky.

Navis sniper je skoro nepouzitelnej indoor.

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Edited by - Kar-Chee on 02/11/2007 19:19:12
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†… Havran …†
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Posted - 02/11/2007 :  19:36:15  Show Profile  Send †… Havran …† an ICQ Message Send †… Havran …† a Private Message  Reply with Quote
no snipera urcite ne. spis se rozhoduju mezi tim stance stromem a tim silencem co strili vsude kolem sebe :)

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Kar-Chee
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Posted - 02/11/2007 :  20:25:31  Show Profile Send Kar-Chee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ja pravdepodobne pojedu toto: http://hellgate.ingame.de/skilltree/marksman/?l=50&s=0a00200700073a0700000003000

Nechapu vlastne k cemu je multishot? Prklad je v podstate: Increase rate of fire by 200% bez redukce presnosti. Tak to uz budu radeji pouzivat rapid fire s 235% increase + 80% dmg increase.

Edit: Kompletni zmena

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Edited by - Kar-Chee on 05/11/2007 09:37:03
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Kar-Chee
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Posted - 04/11/2007 :  19:27:52  Show Profile Send Kar-Chee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
V jakem pohledu hrajete? Mne osobne FPS moc nevyhovoval, tak hraju s kamerou tesne za charakterem.

Jedine co nechapu, je ze z tohoto pohledu nejde strilet primo nad nebo pod sebe. Musim prepinat do FPS.

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†… Havran …†
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Posted - 04/11/2007 :  20:06:11  Show Profile  Send †… Havran …† an ICQ Message Send †… Havran …† a Private Message  Reply with Quote
no taky to mam zapli zezadu na sebe... kdyz potrebuju kolmo nahoru tak zazumuju

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Kar-Chee
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Posted - 05/11/2007 :  09:08:46  Show Profile Send Kar-Chee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Postřeh: S vyssi dexteritou se VELMI zmensuje zamerny kriz a zaroven jeho maximalni roztazitelnost. Moje assault rifle je uz velmi presna i na 30m. Drive jsem musel vzdy pribehnout mnohem bliz.

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†… Havran …†
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Posted - 05/11/2007 :  09:12:11  Show Profile  Send †… Havran …† an ICQ Message Send †… Havran …† a Private Message  Reply with Quote
dex? myslis acurate?

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Kar-Chee
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Posted - 05/11/2007 :  09:13:03  Show Profile Send Kar-Chee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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dex? myslis acurate?


Eh ano. Sorry

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PRIBOO
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Posted - 05/11/2007 :  09:24:27  Show Profile  Send PRIBOO an ICQ Message Send PRIBOO a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kar-Chee

Postřeh: S vyssi dexteritou se VELMI zmensuje zamerny kriz a zaroven jeho maximalni roztazitelnost. Moje assault rifle je uz velmi presna i na 30m. Drive jsem musel vzdy pribehnout mnohem bliz.

Až se snipinou poznáš pravé kouzlo marksmana

Na 50m + cokoli na 1 ranu ...
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Posted - 05/11/2007 :  09:28:09  Show Profile  Send PRIBOO an ICQ Message Send PRIBOO a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Stance snipe marksman:

http://hellgate.ingame.de/skilltree/marksman/?l=50&s=9000500703100007a0070000000

prozatim uvažuju o tomhle s případným upravením bodů mezi Tactical Stance/ Beacon
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Kar-Chee
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Posted - 05/11/2007 :  09:29:08  Show Profile Send Kar-Chee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PRIBOO

quote:
Originally posted by Kar-Chee

Postřeh: S vyssi dexteritou se VELMI zmensuje zamerny kriz a zaroven jeho maximalni roztazitelnost. Moje assault rifle je uz velmi presna i na 30m. Drive jsem musel vzdy pribehnout mnohem bliz.

Až se snipinou poznáš pravé kouzlo marksmana

Na 50m + cokoli na 1 ranu ...



Ja to v bete zkousel. Portnou se za tebe tri, jeden ti da phase a konec.

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Kar-Chee
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Posted - 05/11/2007 :  09:30:09  Show Profile Send Kar-Chee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PRIBOO

Stance snipe marksman:

http://hellgate.ingame.de/skilltree/marksman/?l=50&s=9000500703100007a0070000000

prozatim uvažuju o tomhle s případným upravením bodů mezi Tactical Stance/ Beacon



S tou stale se zvetsujici presnosti zbrani si zacinam rikat jestli neni reflected shot lepsi nez homing shot...

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Kar-Chee
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Posted - 05/11/2007 :  09:33:10  Show Profile Send Kar-Chee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Postupne menim mou predstavu o tom co vlastne jet. Momentalne to vypada takhle: http://hellgate.ingame.de/skilltree/marksman/?l=50&s=0a00200700073a0700000003000

Ale zmenit muzu jeste cokoliv

Edit: hodil jsem omylem starej link

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Edited by - Kar-Chee on 05/11/2007 09:37:20
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Khandar
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Posted - 05/11/2007 :  10:11:29  Show Profile  Send Khandar an ICQ Message Send Khandar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
doporucuju jet build na pasivni talenty a pasivni talenty v taktik modu, equip a bonusy tlatic hlavne do critu a nasobeni critu. kver fire automatiku.

mmt na lvl 33 s critem 20% v tactic modu a nasobitelem cca 600% crit a automatickym fire kverem (dmg 330 (1290dmg na strelu))jeto neuveritelna kosa. lvl40 moby na nightmare padaj jak svesky a je to neuveritelne znat a poznat jak to crituje u ty automatiky... napr bossove proste plynule ubirate hpcka pak crit crit na 1/4 hp a pak konec.

so...
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Kar-Chee
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Posted - 05/11/2007 :  10:38:34  Show Profile Send Kar-Chee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Khandar

doporucuju jet build na pasivni talenty a pasivni talenty v taktik modu, equip a bonusy tlatic hlavne do critu a nasobeni critu. kver fire automatiku.

mmt na lvl 33 s critem 20% v tactic modu a nasobitelem cca 600% crit a automatickym fire kverem (dmg 330 (1290dmg na strelu))jeto neuveritelna kosa. lvl40 moby na nightmare padaj jak svesky a je to neuveritelne znat a poznat jak to crituje u ty automatiky... napr bossove proste plynule ubirate hpcka pak crit crit na 1/4 hp a pak konec.



Kdyz rapid firem trikrat zvednes rychlost strelby, tak vlastne trikrat zvednes sanci na crit....coz na higl lvlu bude vic jak o 14 u tactical stance. Navic +80% dmg...

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Khandar
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Posted - 05/11/2007 :  10:59:33  Show Profile  Send Khandar an ICQ Message Send Khandar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kar-Chee

quote:
Originally posted by Khandar

doporucuju jet build na pasivni talenty a pasivni talenty v taktik modu, equip a bonusy tlatic hlavne do critu a nasobeni critu. kver fire automatiku.

mmt na lvl 33 s critem 20% v tactic modu a nasobitelem cca 600% crit a automatickym fire kverem (dmg 330 (1290dmg na strelu))jeto neuveritelna kosa. lvl40 moby na nightmare padaj jak svesky a je to neuveritelne znat a poznat jak to crituje u ty automatiky... napr bossove proste plynule ubirate hpcka pak crit crit na 1/4 hp a pak konec.



Kdyz rapid firem trikrat zvednes rychlost strelby, tak vlastne trikrat zvednes sanci na crit....coz na higl lvlu bude vic jak o 14 u tactical stance. Navic +80% dmg...



do rapidfiru urcite pujdu ale az namaxuju vsechny pasive talenty... stylem kterym marksmana hraju je pro me mnohem efektivnejsi pouzivat pouze tactical mod...

pokud si namaxujes pasivni talenty pro tactical mod dostanes pri -pokleku 13% crit a hlavne vulnerabilitu na vsechny elementy cca o 100%dmg (proto ta fire automatika, podpaleni je jeste bonus...)a pak samozrejmne odrazeni strel... takze se ta dmg da skoro(relativne vyslednej dmg... jinaj burst dmg ma rapidfurt mnohem vyssi) rovnat s rapidfirem s tim rozdilem ze ho muzes pouzivat furt, necekas na CD.

v rapid firu o tyhle imba pasivy stejne prijdes a hlavne rapidfire je mnohonasobne nebezpecnejsi nez tactical mod... to poznate na nightmare kde vas urciti mobove budou instakillovat ze rapidfire je desne nebezpecnej.

Tim nerikam ze by byl rapidfire spatnej je to jednoznacne nejlepsi aktivni talent s CD co marksman ma.

so...

Edited by - Khandar on 05/11/2007 11:01:24
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Kar-Chee
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Posted - 05/11/2007 :  11:03:26  Show Profile Send Kar-Chee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Khandar
rapidfire je mnohonasobne nebezpecnejsi nez tactical mod



To je ten vetsi stit tak poznat?

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Edited by - Kar-Chee on 05/11/2007 11:05:39
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Kar-Chee
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Posted - 05/11/2007 :  11:04:16  Show Profile Send Kar-Chee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Khandar
do rapidfiru urcite pujdu ale az namaxuju vsechny pasive talenty...



Vis ze v pokleku rapis fire nejde?

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Kar-Chee
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Posted - 05/11/2007 :  11:05:18  Show Profile Send Kar-Chee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
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a hlavne vulnerabilitu na vsechny elementy cca o 100%dmg (proto ta fire automatika, podpaleni je jeste bonus...)


Zatim jsem si nejvice oblibil zbrane s physical dmg, jsou potom vazne vyrazne slabsi?

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Gabriel
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Posted - 05/11/2007 :  11:06:32  Show Profile Send Gabriel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kar-Chee

quote:
Originally posted by Khandar
rapidfire je mnohonasobne nebezpecnejsi nez tactical mod



To je ten vetsi stit tak poznat?



No hlavně v rapid fire nemůžeš utéct a těch pár vteřin je někdy fatálních :-)
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Kar-Chee
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Posted - 05/11/2007 :  11:08:38  Show Profile Send Kar-Chee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gabriel

quote:
Originally posted by Kar-Chee

quote:
Originally posted by Khandar
rapidfire je mnohonasobne nebezpecnejsi nez tactical mod



To je ten vetsi stit tak poznat?



No hlavně v rapid fire nemůžeš utéct a těch pár vteřin je někdy fatálních :-)



V tactical stance taky nemuzes... Teda muzes to kdykoliv prerusit no Ale tak nedavam to kdyz vim ze bych hebnul ne?

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