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Jaffa
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Posted - 22/12/2006 :  09:37:35  Show Profile Send Jaffa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rodier
Dokud to bylo solo mythic, vydavali same temne a potemnele artworky a takove realisticke screeny..(jakoze sice lowpoly ale realisticke textury..krev je krev, zelezo je zelezo..zadne pastelove cartoons)



Pastni mi sem pls nějaky screeny kde mythic ukazoval realistické textury, nějak je nemužu najít protože od začatku co vydávaj screeny vypadaj všecky stejně.Ty si furt pravděpodobně pleteš screeny od Climaxu kterej dělal hru dříve a Mythicu.

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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 22/12/2006 :  14:16:25  Show Profile  Send Shemiramoth an ICQ Message Send Shemiramoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jenom takova perlicka. Jestli jsem tomu dobre porozumel, tak finalni hudbu bude hrat orchestr v Praze. Coz neni zase takova udalost, protoze CR je oblibeny pro svou cenu a kvalitu, ktera je naprosto srovnatelna se zahranicim.

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Rodier
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StavkaDJu

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Posted - 30/12/2006 :  12:51:42  Show Profile  Visit Rodier's Homepage  Send Rodier an ICQ Message Send Rodier a Private Message  Reply with Quote
LOLOLOLOL
http://worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=39605&mode=thread&order=0
LOLOLOLOL

Tak to jsem zvedavej jak to mile Pvp/RvR v tehle hre dopadne..

(EA se rozhodlo ze udelaji WO i na next-gen konzole.. no a je vic nez jasne ze to bude jako u FFka .. 1 svet pro vsechny.. takze budou muset udelat ovladani "srovnatelne" urovne..)


First of all, who cares? Goodbye! Don't let the door hit you in the ass when you leave!
Secondly, you will still buy this. Stop fishing for attention you lonely little troll.
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Jaffa
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Posted - 30/12/2006 :  14:25:07  Show Profile Send Jaffa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rodier

LOLOLOLOL
http://worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=39605&mode=thread&order=0
LOLOLOLOL

Tak to jsem zvedavej jak to mile Pvp/RvR v tehle hre dopadne..

(EA se rozhodlo ze udelaji WO i na next-gen konzole.. no a je vic nez jasne ze to bude jako u FFka .. 1 svet pro vsechny.. takze budou muset udelat ovladani "srovnatelne" urovne..)




To se dalo čekat že bude WH i na X360 a PS3 když to prezentovali na X360 na E306 a hlavně je to EA! ty to chtěli na console v každým případě aby mohli rejžovat kde se dá.

Do budoucna se musí počítat stím že MMO hry budou vycházet i na console mě osobně to nevadí, X360 mam a celkem se těším na to, co z toho vyleze, teď už jen aby vydali na console LOTRO což se nestane

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celdric
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Posted - 31/12/2006 :  20:02:26  Show Profile  Send celdric an ICQ Message Send celdric a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hmmm toz to by me docela potesilo, ze by to udelali i pro konzole...aspon bych si ji konecne mohl koupit... :-)
akorat nejak nechapu proc se toho tak bojite...vsak pro konzole se uz delaj i klavesnice a mysi ne?

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M.C warior
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Posted - 01/01/2007 :  11:09:14  Show Profile  Visit M.C warior's Homepage  Send M.C warior an ICQ Message Send M.C warior a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Koukam ze topic o Warhammeru, Havranovi a Rodierovi dostal vlastni sekci na foru, neni to predcasne ?

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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 01/01/2007 :  11:35:19  Show Profile  Send Shemiramoth an ICQ Message Send Shemiramoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by M.C warior

Koukam ze topic o Warhammeru, Havranovi a Rodierovi dostal vlastni sekci na foru, neni to predcasne ?

Warhammer ma mimoradnou pozornost. Kdyz to bude sracka, tak smazat se to da vzdycky.


Ad konzole: Spolecna onlinovka, ktera se hraje jak na konzolich tak na PC, je Final Fantasy XI. Hra neutrpela vubec nic na gameplayi, takze nechapu kde je problem.

Moznosti je nekolik. Bud to mergnou anebo to bude separatne. Realmy pro X-BOX 360 a realmy pro PC. Coz osobne pochybuju, protoze je to neefektivni. Navic konzole jsou jasna budoucnost a PC verze nemusi nijak utrpet. Zapskli pesimisti jsou totiz odkojeni spatnyma konverzema z konzole na PC. Pokud se hra dela uz od zacatku (navic Mythic nikdy nerekl NEBUDEME delat na konzole + predvadecka na X-BOX 360, vcetne ovladani), tak neni zadny problem.

Nazory typu konzole = jednoduchy pro decka jsou absolutne nesmyslny. V jednoduchosti je sila a nema nic spolecneho s vyspelosti hry anebo hracu. Tzn. slozite = cool, jednoduche = sux. User-friendly interface a ovladani je zaklad kazdy hry. Na slozitosti nema vetsina lidi naladu. Velice intuitivni ovladani ma treba wowko a mimochodem uz jsem videl typka, ktery predelal ovladani wowka na ovladace Wii.

V pripade PvP je samozrejme problem diky neustalemu pochybu playera, pouzivani pozicni specek atd atd. Na konzolich je to stale pomalejsi. Presto se tyhle veci resi pomoci tech "mini joysticku". Mohou pouzit "zamek" na target a dalsi hovadinky. Je to pouze o testu a dobrym navrhu. Uvidime jak to dopadne.

Edit: Trosku jsem to promazl. Hrozne rad ctu spory Havrana a Rodiera, ale nemusi to tady byt az do skonani sveta.

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Pertha
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Posted - 01/01/2007 :  11:48:06  Show Profile  Send Pertha an ICQ Message Send Pertha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by celdric

hmmm toz to by me docela potesilo, ze by to udelali i pro konzole...aspon bych si ji konecne mohl koupit... :-)
akorat nejak nechapu proc se toho tak bojite...vsak pro konzole se uz delaj i klavesnice a mysi ne?



ja osobne taky doufam ze uz pristi pocitac jen kvuli mmo domu kupovat nebudu a poridim si jen konzoli
na ovladani se da zvyknout asi u vseho , jeste si zive pamatuju jak sem si v AO tezko zvykal na awsd kdyz jsem byl zvyklej v uo vse delat mysi

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Rashaverak
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Posted - 01/01/2007 :  12:22:28  Show Profile  Send Rashaverak an ICQ Message Send Rashaverak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
konverze ffxi na pc ma nekolik velkych nedostatku, nejvetsim z nich je nefunkcni multitasking, coz se resi dalsim programkem. to ale warhammeru snad nehrozi.

dalsi problem je v menu, jejich ovladani, a velikosti ikonek a textu ktere jsou na pc proste moc obri a hnusne, da se na to zvyknout ale je to hnusny. tohle bych videl jako mozny problem i ve warhammeru pokud ty verze moc neodlisy

poslednim problemem je ovladani jako takove, nic se neda nastavit jsou dve prednastavene, mys je uplne k nicemu i kdyz funguje, dva dny hruza pak si clovek zvykne a osobne kdyz jsem zacal pak hrat wow tak jsem nejdriv zkousel hrat bez mysi :) tohle by ale ve warhammeru take nemel byt problem.


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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 01/01/2007 :  13:06:54  Show Profile  Send Shemiramoth an ICQ Message Send Shemiramoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rashaverak

dalsi problem je v menu, jejich ovladani, a velikosti ikonek a textu ktere jsou na pc proste moc obri a hnusne, da se na to zvyknout ale je to hnusny. tohle bych videl jako mozny problem i ve warhammeru pokud ty verze moc neodlisi
IMO bude fix na konzole, diky danemu rozliseni a klasicky nastaveni rozliseni pro PC. To by nemel byt snad problem. Vcetne poladeni interfacu atd atd pro danou platformu.

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spajdr
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Posted - 01/01/2007 :  13:43:54  Show Profile  Visit spajdr's Homepage  Send spajdr an ICQ Message Send spajdr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
nejjednodušší by bylo kdyby i konzole verze měla podporu klávesnice a myši, to bych ocenil :)
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celdric
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Posted - 01/01/2007 :  14:01:54  Show Profile  Send celdric an ICQ Message Send celdric a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by spajdr

nejjednodušší by bylo kdyby i konzole verze měla podporu klávesnice a myši, to bych ocenil :)



tak tohle je pro me asi must have feature prip. konzolove verze...protoze bez moznosti klaboseni pres chaty bych to asi neprekous...

ad pertha ano i me uz obtezuje neustala nutnost kazdou chvili kupovat novy HW jen kvuli tomu, ze je na trhu ;-)

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Pertha
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Posted - 01/01/2007 :  14:33:39  Show Profile  Send Pertha an ICQ Message Send Pertha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by celdric

quote:
Originally posted by spajdr

nejjednodušší by bylo kdyby i konzole verze měla podporu klávesnice a myši, to bych ocenil :)



tak tohle je pro me asi must have feature prip. konzolove verze...protoze bez moznosti klaboseni pres chaty bych to asi neprekous...



takl klavesnice na chat samozrejme, ale dalsi vec co by me uz dneska asi chybela a nevim esi pro konzole je je ventrilo / teamspeak

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Jaffa
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Posted - 01/01/2007 :  14:50:54  Show Profile Send Jaffa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pertha

quote:
Originally posted by celdric

quote:
Originally posted by spajdr

nejjednodušší by bylo kdyby i konzole verze měla podporu klávesnice a myši, to bych ocenil :)



tak tohle je pro me asi must have feature prip. konzolove verze...protoze bez moznosti klaboseni pres chaty bych to asi neprekous...



takl klavesnice na chat samozrejme, ale dalsi vec co by me uz dneska asi chybela a nevim esi pro konzole je je ventrilo / teamspeak




X360 a jeho hry maj všechny teamspek přímo v sobě nebo prostě jak to říct, jistě víte že k ovladači se dodáva headset (mikrak+sluchatko) takže kecat mužeš kde cheš přes LIVE službu v menu konzole v jakekoliv hře mužeš mít několik kanalu zapnutejch.

Tohodle bych se nebál voice služba je na X360 perfektní.

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celdric
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Posted - 01/01/2007 :  15:05:50  Show Profile  Send celdric an ICQ Message Send celdric a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jaffa


X360 a jeho hry maj všechny teamspek přímo v sobě nebo prostě jak to říct, jistě víte že k ovladači se dodáva headset (mikrak+sluchatko) takže kecat mužeš kde cheš přes LIVE službu v menu konzole v jakekoliv hře mužeš mít několik kanalu zapnutejch.

Tohodle bych se nebál voice služba je na X360 perfektní.



ale to bude (podle toho popisu) asi zase jenom s X360kama ne? na ventrilo/teamspeak se s tim asi nepripojis...nebo se pletu?

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Jaffa
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Posted - 01/01/2007 :  15:11:31  Show Profile Send Jaffa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jo jo tohodle si užijou jen X360 uživatelé jedině že by měla WH PC verze zabudovanou voice službu přímo v sobě.Externí prográmky jako TS nebo Ventrilo nepude propojit stou voice službou která je na X360.

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celdric
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Posted - 01/01/2007 :  15:21:04  Show Profile  Send celdric an ICQ Message Send celdric a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jaffa

Jo jo tohodle si užijou jen X360 uživatelé jedině že by měla WH PC verze zabudovanou voice službu přímo v sobě.Externí prográmky jako TS nebo Ventrilo nepude propojit stou voice službou která je na X360.



coz je dost na prd...tezko budes skladat skupinu lidi podle toho kdo ma a kdo nema xboxa :-D
ale tahle hra stejne nema byt moc raid oriented ne? spis je grp oriented (aspon tak jsem to doted chapal)

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Posted - 01/01/2007 :  22:21:13  Show Profile  Send †… Havran …† an ICQ Message Send †… Havran …† a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by M.C warior

Koukam ze topic o Warhammeru, Havranovi a Rodierovi dostal vlastni sekci na foru, neni to predcasne ?



spis pozde na to jak je to ocekavana a podporovana hra...

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Speh
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Posted - 02/01/2007 :  22:54:58  Show Profile Send Speh a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by celdric

quote:
Originally posted by Jaffa

Jo jo tohodle si užijou jen X360 uživatelé jedině že by měla WH PC verze zabudovanou voice službu přímo v sobě.Externí prográmky jako TS nebo Ventrilo nepude propojit stou voice službou která je na X360.



coz je dost na prd...tezko budes skladat skupinu lidi podle toho kdo ma a kdo nema xboxa :-D
ale tahle hra stejne nema byt moc raid oriented ne? spis je grp oriented (aspon tak jsem to doted chapal)


Urcite bude zabudovana voice sluzba ve hre.Jinak si lidi s xboxem budou muset poridit pocitac, aby si zahrali na rozumne urovni

Mé dílo jsem Já, kdo jej neuznává, neuznává mě.
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 02/01/2007 :  23:08:10  Show Profile  Send Shemiramoth an ICQ Message Send Shemiramoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Neco snad na uklidnenou :-).

Developer Quotes Mark Jacobs @ F13.net

A lot of the MMO community has been abuzz with the fact that Warhammer will be making it's way to the console. Heck, most people in the MMO community have been quietly peering over their MMO's keeping an eye on the game from EA Mythic. Pondering questions about PvP, EA and many other topics. Mark Jacobs surfaced over at the F13 forums to address some of those issues. Here's the thread.

And the first reply.

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Folks,

Hey all. Just some quick replies:

1) I'm also frustrated with the current state of MMOs. I think we *all* can do a lot better in the future than we are doing today. WAR is not intended to be Generic MMO # nor is it meant to be THE ONE GAME THAT CHALLENGES EVERYTHING AND MAKES YOU ITS B****! My jumping off point for it was the same as for DAoC, evolutionary game with some revolutionary features. Hopefully, there will be enough really cool stuff to get people excited but only time will tell. Truly revolutionary games will, as always, most likely be done by small studios, with small budgets and not by large companies, with large budgets and teams, much like the film industry. There are exceptions of course but as the budgets rise to heights that they have, the harder it is to get backing for something both revolutionary and expensive. That's one reason I've always thought and spoken highly of guys who do games like ATITD and Puzzle Pirates. Maybe one day I'll get to do a truly revolutionary game (I/Mythic) never had the chance in the past and prior to Mythic, getting money to do any online game was unbelievably difficult (as opposed to just incredibly difficult for Mythic), but I would like the shot at it sometime. Who knows, if WAR succeeds, maybe we get a shot at the title...

2) EA has not involved itself in the game design of WAR in any way whatsoever to date. I know you guys will find this hard to believe but so far, EA's involvement in WAR has been only positive. We've gotten a larger budget, access to top technical resources (guys, gals and guides), lots of new hires (people aren't as afraid of moving to Va. anymore and there are lots of people at EA who have been waiting to work on a MMO) and even more attention from the media. I'm not saying that everything is perfect but it wasn't perfect when Mythic was an independent and so far, the acquisition has been a net positive for Mythic and for WAR.

3) As far as good ideas, we have always talked and listened to the community. Sometimes we heard the wrong thing, sometimes we listened to the wrong part of the community and sometimes we got it right. It's a lot harder than anyone who hasn't been through the mill a few times thinks to design, balance and then maintain these games but we will never stop talking and listening. It was for this reason we started WAR's beta test months ago and are getting lots of feedback from hundreds of EA employees. Since it is, to some here, so easy, then why don't we have a private forum set up here where you guys can talk about these ways to innovate for a game like WAR/WoW/EQ/etc. I'll happily participate as long as three rules are followed: 1) No flaming. I don't have the time nor inclination for that type of stuff anymore; 2) Any idea posted is posted with an acknowledgment that is given freely to the public domain; 3) That nobody expects me to post everyday or even that I respond to all posts/mail. Anyone is free to use it, not use it, get credit, not get credit, etc. I'll tell you this though, any idea that someone posts there that I like and that I pass on to the design team, I'll make sure that the person gets game credit for it as well as WAR swag. So, if you think you have some good ideas but nobody is listening, here's your chance. I've always thought that there are lot of bright people here (as well as some who I would happily put in our of our catapults for a quick one-way trip just as some here would apparently love to do to me) and that's why I've read and occasionally posted here forever (and I post almost nowhere these days).

4) I can also tell you that are intent is not to clone WoW or even do WoW 1.5. For some, that is hard to believe I know but that's the last thing I would want to do for the same reason that I haven't put a DAoC 2.0 into production. And let me tell you, given how many DAoC fans there are at EA, if I wanted to score brownie points with the new bosses, that would have been the first thing I did after the acquisition. I want WAR to stand on its own feet and have its own shot at fame/fortune. We're not looking to get WoW sub numbers and that means we don't have to do some things that would make the game more like WoW to achieve those numbers. WAR will be WAR and if anything, it will draw on DAoC more than WoW.

5) We have lots of new stuff that we will be talking about by the summer of 2007 that will show some of the different directions we are going in then some of the current MMOs. The nature of this industry is way to competitive and derivative to talk about them this early in the process and I've instructed marketing, design and community not to talk about them until much later in the process. I know this may sound like "Secret Tester Version and Features!" from some other games but it isn't. We'll talk about them when we can ensure that they appear in our game before somebody else's game.

6) And no, there will not be RMTs (Real Money Trade -> at to nemusite hledat ) in WAR, that was one of my ground rules going into the acquisition and EA, to their credit, didn't want to see them in this game either. Just thought I would make this point again.

So, Happy New Year to all and to all, a good knight.

Mark

A reply as to why such idea discussion forums would be private.

Quote:
Darniaq,

As to why I would prefer it private, simply for ease of moderation and control of flames. Like I said, I just don't have time for that stuff anymore. As far as I'm concerned, anybody is welcome who wants to chat or even be a spectator but if it's open, it is more than likely it will devolve more quickly into the thing I don't want any part of. At least by having it private, people to ask for access to it. I start posting regularly somewhere and then the usual BS starts there unless the Mods really crack down on it. I didn't want to ask the guys here to have to put that much effort into policing the topic.

In terms of when WAR launches, our schedule is unchanged, Q4 2007. Right now we are on schedule but I'll know more after this first round of internal EA beta is finished. At the point we'll have a really good idea of when we stand in terms of the existing content as well as some of the new game systems we're currently working on. FYI, so far so good. No server crashes, lots of playtime used by the testers and we are getting some good intel for client optimizations. We are so far ahead of where we were at this same point with DAoC that we are pretty happy.

In terms of PvP advancement, that was one of the things I wish I had thought more of for DAoC. Our reasoning at the time was to build the communities through PvE advancement at lower levels so that people would have a chance to form friendships, groups, guilds and then they could go into PvP with experience with the game and lots of support. I still believe it made sense back in 2001 and I worry that cradle-to-grave, PvP advancement systems in a hybrid game might work against the building of communities in a new game. Obviously, time will tell.

As far as it shaping up nicely, I agree. While it too is not perfect, the team is really doing a great job on it and frankly, we have surprised a lot of the EA by not only meeting our schedules but by the sheer amount of game we have churned out in such a short amount of time. Throw in lots of love from GW and all is right in WAR these days.

Mark

And on the topic of population imbalances he had this to say.


Quote:
Typhon,

Not only do I agree with you but that has been one of our biggest concerns from Day 1 and it remains so today. It's easily one of the trickiest problems in hybrid MMORPG design, especially one like WAR which we want to be a RvR-centric game. We'll have to see how things turn out once the servers are turned on. This is one of those issues that even a long beta won't necessarily point out the flaws in our design-making.

Mark

And lastly on the topic of Buff Bots.

Quote:
Tazelbain,

Agreed. You'll be happy to know that "No Buffbots" was part of my design document for WAR and they will not be part of the game. That was one of the mistakes/issues we could have handled a lot better and it is a lesson learned. We at Mythic make our share of mistakes but we try really hard not to repeat them.


Mark

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Pertha
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Posted - 02/01/2007 :  23:08:33  Show Profile  Send Pertha an ICQ Message Send Pertha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Speh
Urcite bude zabudovana voice sluzba ve hre.Jinak si lidi s xboxem budou muset poridit pocitac, aby si zahrali na rozumne urovni



existuje uz nejaka mmo se zabudovanym voice systemem ?

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-Mike-
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Posted - 02/01/2007 :  23:18:07  Show Profile  Send -Mike- an ICQ Message Send -Mike- a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Pertha

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Originally posted by Speh
Urcite bude zabudovana voice sluzba ve hre.Jinak si lidi s xboxem budou muset poridit pocitac, aby si zahrali na rozumne urovni



existuje uz nejaka mmo se zabudovanym voice systemem ?


Ted asi napisu rodierovinu (aneb kdysi sem to kdesi cetl a pravdepodobne to neni pravda) ale nema to DDO?

Krabice je zaklad.
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Pertha
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Posted - 02/01/2007 :  23:55:49  Show Profile  Send Pertha an ICQ Message Send Pertha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by -Mike-

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Originally posted by Pertha

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Originally posted by Speh
Urcite bude zabudovana voice sluzba ve hre.Jinak si lidi s xboxem budou muset poridit pocitac, aby si zahrali na rozumne urovni



existuje uz nejaka mmo se zabudovanym voice systemem ?


Ted asi napisu rodierovinu (aneb kdysi sem to kdesi cetl a pravdepodobne to neni pravda) ale nema to DDO?



no prov by pak curtis Meddy a dalsi odpadlici do DDO furt dal viseli na ventrilu v mistnosti DDO ?

Rock is overpowerd, please nerf. Paper is fine.
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Posted - 03/01/2007 :  00:12:03  Show Profile  Send Black an ICQ Message Send Black a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jo DDO to ma a fungovalo to skvele, nicmene zvyk je zelezna kosile

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Originally posted by Pertha
existuje uz nejaka mmo se zabudovanym voice systemem ?


cs:]Ne samo nevidel, ale je to jediny reseni ktery me napada.

Mé dílo jsem Já, kdo jej neuznává, neuznává mě.
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